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Richbv 09-04-2017 06:50 PM

Hawaiian First Year Pay
 
Hi does anybody know what is the after tax first year income, like not 36x75$, like with per diem, real average (credit) hours after taxes? How much is going to the account every month? Thanks
2000tt, 1800 a320, college degree, all international experience ... Any chances??

Qotsaautopilot 09-05-2017 09:18 AM

Question: why did the Hawaiian pilots choose not to look out for new hires

Moonwolf 09-05-2017 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2425307)
Question: why did the Hawaiian pilots choose not to look out for new hires

I think most, especially the senior ones think because they had to do it, so should the new hires. Usually if it's ever brought up while flying it's followed by a "well it my day it was 1700 salary a month or some low amount" so that somehow justifies it in their minds.
And with 20-30 years at the job, faced with a significant upgrade in pay for them, first year pay is not a concerns so why vote it down. Uy

The unions position is that it's the companies job to set pay for the first year, although they also said they put significant money towards an trying to increase for first year... apparently not enough (pun intended)

I don't see anything changing unless people don't show up for class/interviews etc but from what I can tell seems like there are people lined up.

Qotsaautopilot 09-06-2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 2425603)
I think most, especially the senior ones think because they had to do it, so should the new hires. Usually if it's ever brought up while flying it's followed by a "well it my day it was 1700 salary a month or some low amount" so that somehow justifies it in their minds.
And with 20-30 years at the job, faced with a significant upgrade in pay for them, first year pay is not a concerns so why vote it down. Uy

The unions position is that it's the companies job to set pay for the first year, although they also said they put significant money towards an trying to increase for first year... apparently not enough (pun intended)

I don't see anything changing unless people don't show up for class/interviews etc but from what I can tell seems like there are people lined up.


Sad. Simple case of pulling the ladder up behind you. I had it bad so future generations should too. What a joke. Pilots applying to Hawaiian are done paying dues. These are experienced pilots not kids with a wet commercial.

Rama 09-06-2017 09:00 PM

It is sad, however the union tried to change it. Certainly not worth rejecting a contract on this one issue.
Management can up the first year pay at any time. It is certainly short-sighted not to.

WestCoaster82 09-07-2017 11:40 AM

Does anyone have any information on the initial post, by chance? Income after tax?

supernaut 09-07-2017 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by WestCoaster82 (Post 2426709)
Does anyone have any information on the initial post, by chance? Income after tax?

Yes. It varies by what state you're a resident of and how many withholding exemptions you're claiming on state and federal W-4 forms.

Qotsaautopilot 09-07-2017 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Rama (Post 2426336)
It is sad, however the union tried to change it. Certainly not worth rejecting a contract on this one issue.
Management can up the first year pay at any time. It is certainly short-sighted not to.

Imo it IS worth rejecting a contract on THIS ONE issue.

Kettlebell 09-07-2017 03:23 PM

Take home is about 1k per paycheck...

Richbv 09-08-2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Kettlebell (Post 2426823)
Take home is about 1k per paycheck...

Houston we have a problem!


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