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av8trinabarrel 03-15-2019 09:52 PM

Give it a rest already KingAir . You are the one going on and on and on about this. The passive aggressive thing is making you look foolish and petty.

If you had an HAL shark hanging on the wall chasing AK and SWA bait fish, you would be gloating from ear to ear. You usually have solid posts, but this isn’t one of them. Most of us have been kicked in the nuts too many times in aviation to wish I’ll will on anyone. I wish you and the AK folks good luck!

Donuthole 03-16-2019 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel (Post 2783413)
Give it a rest already KingAir . You are the one going on and on and on about this. The passive aggressive thing is making you look foolish and petty.

If you had an HAL shark hanging on the wall chasing AK and SWA bait fish, you would be gloating from ear to ear. You usually have solid posts, but this
isn’t one of them. Most of us have been kicked in the nuts too many times in aviation to wish I’ll will on anyone. I wish you and the AK folks good luck!


Disagree. When a picture like that is seen, it’ll spark some angst in anyone who’s the small fish. I have to back up Kingair here because I have mouths to feed as I would imagine he does, too. While I hope it turns out a David vs Goliath situation we all know the possibilities both good and bad. If that particular thinking isn’t shared by the pilot group then shame on the management team for putting it up, it’s trashy and tasteless at best. If you don’t want an immature fight then don’t start one. I can also tell you with certainty that would never be placed on HAL property whether we were a 15,000 pilot group out to get everyone or the 800 pilot group with a niche that we are. Take it for what it is and I appreciate you not being a part of the problem, but to follow in KinAirs footsteps.... You started it.

RJSAviator76 03-16-2019 11:41 AM

I don’t see that shark thing to be that big of a deal or meant as an insult. If anything, it’s a caricature of our respective airline sizes and a motivator for all of us to do this right.

KnockKnock 03-16-2019 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Donuthole (Post 2783680)
Disagree. When a picture like that is seen, it’ll spark some angst in anyone who’s the small fish. I have to back up Kingair here because I have mouths to feed as I would imagine he does, too. While I hope it turns out a David vs Goliath situation we all know the possibilities both good and bad. If that particular thinking isn’t shared by the pilot group then shame on the management team for putting it up, it’s trashy and tasteless at best. If you don’t want an immature fight then don’t start one. I can also tell you with certainty that would never be placed on HAL property whether we were a 15,000 pilot group out to get everyone or the 800 pilot group with a niche that we are. Take it for what it is and I appreciate you not being a part of the problem, but to follow in KinAirs footsteps.... You started it.

One of their guys stumbled over to the Alaska boards and tried picking fights there too. A couple of his own came and grabbed him though so all good. All this peacocking is ridiculous. Unless they’re in management and actually have a say in the business decisions, no pilot should be beating their chest and declaring superiority, let alone salivating at the prospect of another pilot groups demise. Last time I checked, we all go to the same places and push pretty much the same buttons to get there. SOME of these SW guys need to pump their brakes and remember how fast this industry can change ones situation.

Peacock 03-16-2019 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2783730)
One of their guys stumbled over to the Alaska boards and tried picking fights there too. A couple of his own came and grabbed him though so all good. All this peacocking is ridiculous. Unless they’re in management and actually have a say in the business decisions, no pilot should be beating their chest and declaring superiority, let alone salivating at the prospect of another pilot groups demise. Last time I checked, we all go to the same places and push pretty much the same buttons to get there. SOME of these SW guys need to pump their brakes and remember how fast this industry can change ones situation.

What’s wrong with peacocking?!

Opakapaka 03-16-2019 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by kingairfun (Post 2783370)
So... new goal...

How many SWA guys can we get to comment on HA and AK threads...


For an airline that does really well, you guys sure get defensive if anyone makes a negative comment.:rolleyes:

And the MAX was never intended for Hawaii? Phoenix, Denver.. all those possible route talks are for the -700/-800? I was under the impression the MAX was destined for Hawaii eventually?

Either way, does not matter. Best of luck on your Hawaii flying, your OAK crew room has given you quite the rep over here. What was gonna be friendly competition will probably turn ugly. We knew a percentage of your pax were of low class, but the pilots are starting to look that way as well.

Look how quick Hal reduced fare interisland. Now you are finally representing the people of Hawaii. Took SWA to help Hal see the light.
Cheers

Opakapaka 03-16-2019 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2783730)
One of their guys stumbled over to the Alaska boards and tried picking fights there too. A couple of his own came and grabbed him though so all good. All this peacocking is ridiculous. Unless they’re in management and actually have a say in the business decisions, no pilot should be beating their chest and declaring superiority, let alone salivating at the prospect of another pilot groups demise. Last time I checked, we all go to the same places and push pretty much the same buttons to get there. SOME of these SW guys need to pump their brakes and remember how fast this industry can change ones situation.

Were you around during the merger talks with AQ. After the books were open (AQ was a private company) and Hal saw our game plane they pulled out and did exactly what AQ had planned. Many HAL pilots picketed to stop the merger and were pretty mean if you got one trying to JS. Also after AQ shut down Victory flags appeared, so don’t tell us about beating chests, because after 20 years I had to start over so you’re preaching to the wrong guy. Go back in time and look in the mirror.
I know BOTH carriers can co exist so chill out. Cheers

fuzzball 03-16-2019 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Opakapaka (Post 2783804)
Look how quick Hal reduced fare interisland. Now you are finally representing the people of Hawaii. Took SWA to help Hal see the light.
Cheers


Good time for a fact check.



I just did a comparison shop for day after tomorrow, returning a day later:


SWA Austin-Dallas $457.96


HAL Honolulu-Hilo $209.94

Peacock 03-16-2019 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by fuzzball (Post 2783826)
Good time for a fact check.



I just did a comparison shop for day after tomorrow, returning a day later:


SWA Austin-Dallas $457.96


HAL Honolulu-Hilo $209.94

People are willing to pay a premium to fly out of Love and avoid DFW

KnockKnock 03-16-2019 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Opakapaka (Post 2783818)
Were you around during the merger talks with AQ. After the books were open (AQ was a private company) and Hal saw our game plane they pulled out and did exactly what AQ had planned. Many HAL pilots picketed to stop the merger and were pretty mean if you got one trying to JS. Also after AQ shut down Victory flags appeared, so don’t tell us about beating chests, because after 20 years I had to start over so you’re preaching to the wrong guy. Go back in time and look in the mirror.
I know BOTH carriers can co exist so chill out. Cheers

I’m an Alaska guy pointing out that the SW feather puffing isn’t confined to the HAL threads. So to answer your question, no, I wasn’t around for that fight nor did I have anything to do with it. I’m plenty chill and don’t want to take over another airlines thread but this “my airline can beat up your airline” playground fight is spilling into all of our boards. I agree that ALL carriers can coexist and that the competition is good for business.


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