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Originally Posted by MySaabStory
(Post 2774640)
Hawaiian has a great service from the states. It’s like saying Greyhound will put Southwest out of business if they started competing directly on city pairs.
I can barely withstand a 30 min flight on Southwest, let alone 6 hours next to Bubba and his 6 kids. What I would be more worried about is the kind of people Southwest will bring to the islands. I don’t think their are enough Motel 6s and RedRoofs to cover the inflow. Hmmm. That may be a good investment now that I think of it. When I buy tickets (or my wife buys tickets for business) we always buy SWA. 2 Free checked bags, can cancel/ change without an additional fee etc. |
Originally Posted by seekingblue
(Post 2775100)
I don't have a dog in this fight, (don't work for HAL or SWA) but why all the SWA hate?.
The crews are great....the passengers, not so much. |
If you think SWA pax are bad, be glad Spirit or Frontier aren’t flying to the islands... yet.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2775112)
If you think SWA pax are bad, be glad Spirit or Frontier aren’t flying to the islands... yet.
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I really don’t think SWA is out to crush anyone in Hawaii, and especially Hawaiian. What they have does not compare to what Hawaiian offers with long range, widebody planes, a hometown presence, and better service.
There will be a market adjustment just like when any competitor enters a new market, but it will eventually reach a point of equilibrium with coexistence. Competition is a good thing. I fly a lot on all different carriers and the pax on SWA are the same people that fly the legacy airlines when the ticket is cheaper. Believe it. The folks cashing in rapid rewards points on tickets are generally high value customers who fly SWA a lot for business or spend a lot on the branded credit card and are not bringing a garbage bag for luggage. Besides, as someone mentioned above, getting to Hawaii is the easy part. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2775112)
If you think SWA pax are bad, be glad Spirit or Frontier aren’t flying to the islands... yet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JEKIsGvC7kc |
Originally Posted by NoCheesePlates
(Post 2775152)
Not very accurate. You see the news these days and it's EVERY airline. Why? The lack of respect and the self entitlement. I've attached a gem of a video on a jetBlue flight no less than a month ago.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JEKIsGvC7kc Come on man, millennials don’t count! :D |
Originally Posted by Poopchute701
(Post 2774541)
With The Southwest announcement today and dirt cheap airfare, how can Hawaiian survive in this environment. RT tickets below $200 from West Coast and $60 RT interisland. Would a pilot there jump ship or wait for a merger to happen?
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SWA isn’t going after Pualani, they’re going after Chester. Hawaiian will be just fine, it’s AAG that SWA covets. Q3-4 2020 Merger announcement is my guess.
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Agree that Alaska is the carrier that needs to be worried. It’s not just the California-Hawaii market, they’ve also tried to make inroads Intra-California against SWA and they’re failing miserably. Both of these market revenue streams are going to take a big hit for AAG.
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