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HiFly5 08-07-2023 01:32 PM

Sun country merger?
 
I’ll stir the pot.

Is this rumor circulating with you guys too? We’ve been hearing it for a little while now…

Hawaii808 08-07-2023 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by HiFly5 (Post 3679300)
I’ll stir the pot.

Is this rumor circulating with you guys too? We’ve been hearing it for a little while now…

there’s a lot of rumors that circulate at Hawaiian, but that’s a new one for me.

FyrePilot 08-07-2023 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaii808 (Post 3679324)
there’s a lot of rumors that circulate at Hawaiian, but that’s a new one for me.

It was mentioned in their forum. It's confirmed they wanted the Amazon 330 flying but need more time before they would be ready to start ops

Both airlines serve leisure travelers

That's about where the similarities end.

There is a reason ULCC carriers don't come to Hawaii. Minimum seat pitch with slimline and no recline seats (F9, NK, G5) do not come on a 6 hour flight to Hawaii. It didn't work for G5. WN flights are really pushing it but at least there you have recline and a regular seat.

While sun country is profitable the fleet types are different. It might work. But it's got to be a long ways off. I see nothing but pilot speculation.

Moonwolf 08-07-2023 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by HiFly5 (Post 3679300)
I’ll stir the pot.

Is this rumor circulating with you guys too? We’ve been hearing it for a little while now…

I rode on sun country once. They served hot dogs, like boiling water containers full of hot dogs. I ate two. The whole cabin smelled horrible but there were glizzys so it wasn’t that bad. It’s safe to say it’s about the opposite cultures for airlines and if we had to merge I’d pray to baby Jesus it wouldn’t be sunny. I mean no offense

nene 08-07-2023 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 3679385)
I rode on sun country once. They served hot dogs, like boiling water containers full of hot dogs. I ate two. The whole cabin smelled horrible but there were glizzys so it wasn’t that bad. It’s safe to say it’s about the opposite cultures for airlines and if we had to merge I’d pray to baby Jesus it wouldn’t be sunny. I mean no offense

Now why does Jesus have to be a baby? He was a grown man for Pete's sake!

PineappleXpres 08-07-2023 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by HiFly5 (Post 3679300)
I’ll stir the pot.

Is this rumor circulating with you guys too? We’ve been hearing it for a little while now…

Thought it was Mesa? There will be another 330 Amazon operator and some point and they definitely won’t be merging. Defeats the purpose. I’d guess Alaska or JetBlue (if Spirit falls through), but not for another decade or so.

sidelinesam 08-08-2023 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 3679385)
I rode on sun country once. They served hot dogs, like boiling water containers full of hot dogs. I ate two. The whole cabin smelled horrible but there were glizzys so it wasn’t that bad. It’s safe to say it’s about the opposite cultures for airlines and if we had to merge I’d pray to baby Jesus it wouldn’t be sunny. I mean no offense

No more hot dogs on Sunny. Haven’t been for years! It’s a totally different product now. Don’t pray too hard, baby Jesus doesn’t oversee airline mergers.

beech1980 08-08-2023 10:34 AM

There is a reason ULCC carriers don't come to Hawaii. Minimum seat pitch with slimline and no recline seats (F9, NK, G5) do not come on a 6 hour flight to Hawaii. It didn't work for G5. WN flights are really pushing it but at least there you have recline and a regular seat.

like Sam said… Sunny is different carrier now. Three different pitches in the cabin, closed loop wifi with movies and shows. In seat power. Free on board non alcoholic drinks. Food and drinks for purchase. Sunny did HNL from PDX, SFO, LAX for a few years prior to Covid for probably 4-5 months out of the year. CEO said possibly 2024 will be going back. I don’t think a merger between Hawaiian is likely. CEO said they were closer than they really wanted to be on getting that flying. Their focus now is on growing the 737-800/900 fleet in PAX growth. They have talked about wide bodies but that is a long ways out! The post Covid profits at Sunny have been some of the highest in the industry as far as percentages go. Not sure they are looking to buy. No offense taken!

170Till5 08-13-2023 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 3679385)
I rode on sun country once. They served hot dogs, like boiling water containers full of hot dogs. I ate two. The whole cabin smelled horrible but there were glizzys so it wasn’t that bad. It’s safe to say it’s about the opposite cultures for airlines and if we had to merge I’d pray to baby Jesus it wouldn’t be sunny. I mean no offense

Lol this is FA’s selling it on their own, not the actual airline. They boil them in the coffee pots and go around selling them to pax and pocket the cash

Neosporin 10-30-2023 05:31 PM

In light of the JetBlue/Spirit merger, this leaves Frontier. I’ve heard that Barry (the CEO) comes in the new hire classes and boasts on the amount of cash they have and that they’re able to buy whomever they want…


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