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Atc Hiring
ATC is hiring, and they have a link up now where you don't have to be coming out of a 4 year atc degree program
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Does it say "Full Time Temporary"? The job is only for 13 months?:confused:
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From the link...
"A legible copy of your Control Tower Operator (CTO) license (Please include a copy of both the front & back of the license). If applicable provide a copy of your SF-50, Notification of Personnel Action, indicating your initial appointment to the FAA or DoD as an Air Traffic Control Specialist prior to your 31st birthdate. SUPPORTING REQUIRED DOCUMENTS MUST BE RECEIVED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF APPLICATION WITH AAC-AAT-09-CTO. Documentation can be faxed to (405) 954-5766 or (405) 954-6393." How does one go about getting a CTO license prior to applying foir this job? |
Originally Posted by DiputadoVolador
(Post 591753)
From the link...
"A legible copy of your Control Tower Operator (CTO) license (Please include a copy of both the front & back of the license). If applicable provide a copy of your SF-50, Notification of Personnel Action, indicating your initial appointment to the FAA or DoD as an Air Traffic Control Specialist prior to your 31st birthdate. SUPPORTING REQUIRED DOCUMENTS MUST BE RECEIVED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF APPLICATION WITH AAC-AAT-09-CTO. Documentation can be faxed to (405) 954-5766 or (405) 954-6393." How does one go about getting a CTO license prior to applying foir this job? |
The open to public w/ no prior experience posting will say "PUBNAT" in the title.
Check out the link below for more info. OTS - Off the Street - Air Traffic Control - ATC - Aviation |
I put my application in. Did not qualify and the system told me right after I finished my application because I was not a former employee or military controller. But it doesn't hurt to get my info in the system and see what happens.
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Sounds like the FAA is poaching the DoD.
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it let me put in an application so idk, if u can get it to submit then your doing yourself a favor, at least your in it, keep checking for new postings, the more you submit the better, at least us guys with CPL's SHOULD! be ahead of the general public
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The maximum entry age is 30 year of age. Bah.
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This looks like a gap filler position, available only to those with prior experience. (DoD, USAF, USN, MC, A, FAA.) Probably at low density towers.
Go to FAA.gov to get the info on a career position. |
The further deterioration of the USA; 30% ATC patcuts a few years ago for all new hires. WHY WOULD ANYONE.....?
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The Local tracon has been begging me to apply, but said I can't until the notice is for street hires, go figure.
Called Ok City they said it would be not until June or July that a public announcement is posted. According to a couple of current controllers, last time they made hiring open to people off the street they received four thousand applications with a majority being non qualified. |
Who was the President that fired these guys once?
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it was the guy they named an airport after in DC
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when did we have a president named dulles??:D
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ATC is hiring off the street now.Link
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just out of curiosity, that 17k/23k is paid during training which is about 12 weeks in OKC. Right? Thats not first year pay.
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here comes the flood of resumes...awesome
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 644911)
here comes the flood of resumes...awesome
I don't think that's going to be the case, this market is outdated (technology) and very understaffed, I read an article last year saying about 65% of controllers will retired by 2016. Basically more are retiring than the FAA can hire and train. |
Originally Posted by Bri85
(Post 644910)
just out of curiosity, that 17k/23k is paid during training which is about 12 weeks in OKC. Right? Thats not first year pay.
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what do you mean hiring off of the street? what did they do before?
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Originally Posted by wmuflyboy
(Post 647034)
what do you mean hiring off of the street? what did they do before?
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Can anyone tell me what the reason is for the age-restriction?
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Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 647079)
they used to hire only ex-military controllers, re-hires from the patco strike, or CTI graduates (a dozen or two colleges in the country with approved air traffic control programs.)
ok so your saying that if im not any of those, i can get hired and they will train me? or do i still have to be some sort of CTI graduate? |
Originally Posted by sidelinesam
(Post 647352)
Can anyone tell me what the reason is for the age-restriction?
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Originally Posted by wmuflyboy
(Post 647466)
ok so your saying that if im not any of those, i can get hired and they will train me? or do i still have to be some sort of CTI graduate?
Yes. This my understanding anyway. You DO NOT have to be a CTI grad. I believe you have to take the atc test though..... I forget what it's called... Ig your going to do it you should act quickly. |
Originally Posted by wmuflyboy
(Post 647468)
i flew with one of the ATC ladies at my airport and she said its because they want a minimum of 25 years out of you. i believe mandatory retirement is 55??
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Originally Posted by wmuflyboy
(Post 647466)
ok so your saying that if im not any of those, i can get hired and they will train me? or do i still have to be some sort of CTI graduate?
CTI grads get trained too, just like an off the street person will. i think as far as training goes, only difference is that CTI grads get to skip like the initial 2-3 weeks of training. there is a specific name for the training that they skip, forget what it was called. as far as hiring goes, CTI grads go through a different process instead of having to apply through the public job posting like off the street people have to (see below.)
Originally Posted by WalkOfShame
(Post 647528)
Yes. This my understanding anyway. You DO NOT have to be a CTI grad. I believe you have to take the atc test though..... I forget what it's called... Ig your going to do it you should act quickly.
yeah if you want to do it you should do it quickly, but that is not up to you. the faa posts the job listing on their website periodically and randomly. you can only apply through this public posting. since they started hiring off the street few years ago, they have only posted 6 or 7 times. so right now all you can do is wait for them to post another vacancy. p.s. i could be wrong but i dont think that they let you take the atsat until you start the application process, which you can't do until they actually post the job opening. |
Where do you take the ATSAT kalyx522... I thought you needed to be on a simulated radar room to take the test.
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Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 647555)
yeah. they are hiring off the street now so there is absolutely no need to waste money on an air traffic control degree.
CTI grads get trained too, just like an off the street person will. i think as far as training goes, only difference is that CTI grads get to skip like the initial 2-3 weeks of training. there is a specific name for the training that they skip, forget what it was called. as far as hiring goes, CTI grads go through a different process instead of having to apply through the public job posting like off the street people have to (see below.) you do have to take the ATSAT, it's more general aptitude type of stuff... DO NOT NEED any kind of atc knowledge to do well on the exam. i have heard people worrying so much about the exam, in my opinion you have to be pretty darn stupid to get a bad score. yeah if you want to do it you should do it quickly, but that is not up to you. the faa posts the job listing on their website periodically and randomly. you can only apply through this public posting. since they started hiring off the street few years ago, they have only posted 6 or 7 times. so right now all you can do is wait for them to post another vacancy. p.s. i could be wrong but i dont think that they let you take the atsat until you start the application process, which you can't do until they actually post the job opening. would you say this is the job posting for off the street atc then? the requirements say you have to be a CTI graduate tho... USAJOBS - Search Jobs |
Originally Posted by Bri85
(Post 647562)
Where do you take the ATSAT kalyx522... I thought you needed to be on a simulated radar room to take the test.
Originally Posted by wmuflyboy
(Post 647585)
would you say this is the job posting for off the street atc then? the requirements say you have to be a CTI graduate tho...
USAJOBS - Search Jobs |
[quote=kalyx522;647555]yeah. they are hiring off the street now so there is absolutely no need to waste money on an air traffic control degree. CTI grads get trained too, just like an off the street person will. i think as far as training goes, only difference is that CTI grads get to skip like the initial 2-3 weeks of training. there is a specific name for the training that they skip, forget what it was called. as far as hiring goes, CTI grads go through a different process instead of having to apply through the public job posting like off the street people have to (see below.) quote]
ok i understand. i got confused when you said the above statement. maybe you just made a mistake or something?? anyway, thanks for the help. its def something to think about the way the airline industry is. ill keep checking... |
[QUOTE=wmuflyboy;647690]
Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 647555)
yeah. they are hiring off the street now so there is absolutely no need to waste money on an air traffic control degree. CTI grads get trained too, just like an off the street person will. i think as far as training goes, only difference is that CTI grads get to skip like the initial 2-3 weeks of training. there is a specific name for the training that they skip, forget what it was called. as far as hiring goes, CTI grads go through a different process instead of having to apply through the public job posting like off the street people have to (see below.) quote]
ok i understand. i got confused when you said the above statement. maybe you just made a mistake or something?? anyway, thanks for the help. its def something to think about the way the airline industry is. ill keep checking... |
Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 647553)
yes, that is true, its for retirement age reasons.
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[quote=kalyx522;648055]
Originally Posted by wmuflyboy
(Post 647690)
lol, ok sorry. i meant that they are hiring off the street now, as opposed to in the past they didnt. not that they are hiring RIGHT NOW, although like i said that could change any moment if they publish a vacancy. haha understood. thanks! |
Originally Posted by sidelinesam
(Post 648100)
So the pilot being controlled has less stringent retirement requirements than the controllers?
To my knowledge it is not a pilot/controller thing it is a gov job thing. |
I just got the an email to schedule the atsat. I applied a couple month sago to one of the pubnats I heard about on this thread.
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Dip,
Did you apply for pubnat 8? I am waiting on that very email if so. |
I applied for PUBNAT8 and I got the e-mail for the AT-SAT on 9/22. I am scheduled to take it on November 3rd in Coraopolis, PA.
Congratulations. You have been selected to take the Air Traffic Selection and Training (AT-SAT) test. This letter is notification that your testing location is Coraopolis, PA. You will be scheduled for a single, 8-hour testing session between the dates of October 6-November 12. There will be no testing on Saturdays or Sundays. All travel and lodging arrangements and expenses are your responsibility. The test will be administered for the FAA by Robinson Aviation (RVA), Inc. Test dates will be assigned on a first call, first served basis. You must call Robinson Aviation at (405) 840-3771 between 8:00 AM and 5:00 PM Central Time no later than October 2, 2009 and speak with a test scheduler. Please write down your test date. Once we have scheduled your date, you will not be contacted about the test again. It is your responsibility to remember your test date and arrive on time for the test. If you are not available during this time or are no longer interested in taking the AT-SAT test, please call and let us know. The test will be given in the Davidson Room at The Embassy Suites Hotel-Pittsburgh Int'l Airport and will begin promptly at 8:00 AM. Embassy Suites Hotel-Pittsburgh Int'l. Airport is located at: 550 Cherrington Parkway Coraopolis, PA 15108 (412) 329-2605 Please do not call the hotel regarding this test! Identity verification will take place prior to testing. You need to arrive at the testing room before 7:30 AM on your scheduled test date. Please bring this letter and two forms of identification. One form must be a photo ID issued by a government agency. Both must have your signature. Remember, you must have two forms of identification. The test will be video/audio taped for security purposes. You will not be allowed to use electronic devices such as calculators, personal digital assistants (PDAs), cell phones, or calculator watches during the test, nor will you be allowed any written material. You will not need pencil and paper and these will not be allowed in the test room. No cameras or visitors are allowed in the test room. The test is computer-based requiring the use of a keyboard, mouse, and headset. The test is self-paced and the maximum time allowed for the test is eight hours which includes two 15-minute breaks and a 45-minute lunch period. You may take additional breaks, but the total time allowed will remain eight hours regardless of the number of breaks you take. Again, a testing slot will not be reserved for you unless you call Robinson Aviation (RVA), Inc. and coordinate a test date. We look forward to seeing you at the AT-SAT test. Chuck Goode AT-SAT Program Manager Robinson Aviation (RVA), Inc. (405) 840-3771 e-mail: [email protected] |
Originally Posted by Cloudchaser
(Post 687536)
Dip,
Did you apply for pubnat 8? I am waiting on that very email if so. |
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