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papacharlie 12-26-2009 09:43 AM

it always can....

nitescream 12-28-2009 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by wmuflyboy (Post 732910)
yes, yes it can...

no it cannot, i can only give you freedom!!

wmuflyboy 12-28-2009 10:11 AM

i disagree but to each his own....

colinflyin 12-28-2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by nitescream (Post 732441)
I hear you man! I have the opportunity to become a police officer, but I do not want to settle because I know I will keep wondering how far I would have gotten in this industry. I know I am still training, but that is the beginning of the journey. I have a few legit connections already due to other jobs I have had surprisingly outside of the aviation world. For example I have done a few oil changes for people and we end up having a few conversations with some and I would mention my future goals and one person happened to be a pilot and give me their numbers and few other numbers. If I was worried about the finances I would have just stuck with becoming a cop. I know finances will not be the best for many years as I try earn jobs and get with bigger companies. One thing is for sure, I will be happy during every second of it! Money cannot buy happiness. :)

Go become a cop. And fly on the weekends. I still love flying but the state of the industry has made me hate it. I got into this industry at age 18, then flight instructed at a 141 school for 1.5 years, then went to the regionals flying a Dash 8 for $14,000 a year. I had 37 pax life's in my hand. Is that worth $14,000 a year!?!?!? I am already pot committed in this job. All my student loans and time has been wasted. I am 24 years old, have no money, no job, way too much in student loans, not even a glimmer of hope of getting hired anytime soon, and live with my parents. Sound good to you so far. This industry is a nightmare. I will never recommend anyone to go into this career. You simply work too hard for no reward!!!

snippercr 12-28-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by PA31 (Post 732213)
The official hiring number is 16 pilots. I hope we will hire more though!

Even then, from the topic in the Regional Forum most people were saying that those slots were going to UAL, poolies or a few others. I may have misread that (as I probably did). Also, there is the usual "there are 10,000 pilots on the street with thousands of hours of turbine time."

But hey, I'm just repeating what everone is saying. I am just a lowly CFI

ugflyer 12-28-2009 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 734081)
Even then, from the topic in the Regional Forum most people were saying that those slots were going to UAL, poolies or a few others. I may have misread that (as I probably did). Also, there is the usual "there are 10,000 pilots on the street with thousands of hours of turbine time."

But hey, I'm just repeating what everone is saying. I am just a lowly CFI

Tell you what ma man....I used to be that guy that always listened to the gospel of others except my own. I soon realised that unless I bought a damn ticket, I stood no chance of winning the lottery.
Let them say what they have to say about this that and the other...... but above all, just do what you have to do and your time will come. Always, I mean ALWAYS turn in your application reagardless. You will be surprised.

snippercr 12-29-2009 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by ugflyer (Post 734173)
Tell you what ma man....I used to be that guy that always listened to the gospel of others except my own. I soon realised that unless I bought a damn ticket, I stood no chance of winning the lottery.
Let them say what they have to say about this that and the other...... but above all, just do what you have to do and your time will come. Always, I mean ALWAYS turn in your application reagardless. You will be surprised.

I must say... you have an excellent point.

wmuflyboy 12-29-2009 12:57 PM

that is/was my mentality too sniper until i talked to a couple old flight instructors of mine who work there. im just a CFI too. they said to put in my app. they even gave me their employee numbers for an internal rec. i dont know if that helps or not but it cant hurt. i think we all know they arent going to hire off the street but at least our resumes in the pile. never know, yours might stand out more than mine when time comes.....

Luv2Rotate 12-29-2009 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by wmuflyboy (Post 734553)
that is/was my mentality too sniper until i talked to a couple old flight instructors of mine who work there. im just a CFI too. they said to put in my app. they even gave me their employee numbers for an internal rec. i dont know if that helps or not but it cant hurt. i think we all know they arent going to hire off the street but at least our resumes in the pile. never know, yours might stand out more than mine when time comes.....

Yeah, I did the same with internal rec by the chief and an instructor. (crossing fingers) but not holding my breath. :rolleyes:

snippercr 12-29-2009 02:49 PM

This may be a bit to general, but my interpretation (and experience so far) has been "In the pile" or "on file" generally means your resume was filed in the blue container... Think that is true in this case? I dont have their minimums so I am not even applying but that's been my experiences with flight schools.


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