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Evergreen Hiring?
Just wondering if anybody knew whether Evergreen was hiring onto the 747 fleet, or if it was just the small a/c contracts overseas.
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I don't work at Evergreen, but I don't think they're hiring. They recently were, but if my info was correct the Dreamlifter contract went to Atlas Air and so Evergreen halted hiring.
There is very good chance I'm wrong though, so hopefully a Evergreen guy will chime in. |
They are still hiring. They have been running a class of 4 pilots per month for the past several months. They can barely keep up with the number of people quitting. We had 5 people quit last week so the ranks are really thinning...especially on the FO side. The schedules are not for everyone and they can really take a toll on your married life. The voting on the TA closes this week and its any one's guess what will happen when it gets turned down.
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We increased the staffing levels per airplane since we have a lot more flying per aircraft. Also a lot of F/O's are leaving for other jobs. So we will be hiring for a long time unless something changes.
Yes the LCF flying has ended, but we need more pilots now. Go figure? |
Originally Posted by Green Giant
(Post 856836)
We increased the staffing levels per airplane since we have a lot more flying per aircraft. Also a lot of F/O's are leaving for other jobs. So we will be hiring for a long time unless something changes.
Yes the LCF flying has ended, but we need more pilots now. Go figure? Well I'm glad it's working out. I was wondering if losing that would hurt staffing. Glad it's not. :) |
ALPA Press Release:
The EIA MEC would like to report the results of contract tentative agreement vote as the ballot closed today. The Evergreen crewmembers rejected the tentative collective bargaining agreement by a high percentage. Ninety-two percent of EIA crewmembers participated in the ratification process with 96 percent of voting members casting ballots against the tentative agreement. Here is a breakdown of the numbers in terms of votes casted. There were 168 crewmembers who voted of the 182 eligible voters. Of the 168 crewmembers who voted, 162 voted against the TA and six voted for the TA. This vote also didn't allow any of our more recent hires (ex. Midwest, ATA, and Aloha guys, primarily) to vote because they are still on probation. In terms of hiring, that's who we're hiring and who's competitive. It's great to see that many of the pilots who've suffered during this industry downturn the most, losing their jobs as their company imploded, are being welcomed with warm arms here. Internal recommendations and a couple thousand hours of 737 or larger experience is competitive, but you'll never get hired if you don't put your stuff in. Rumor is we hired a pilot with nothing more than Dash-8 FO time, though that is certainly the exception to the norm. We have 9 747-200's (ex Luftansa and JAL), and 1 747-400 (the 2 remaining LCF's are on their way out). Rumors of more 747-400's and management talk of more -400's every month. Like all airlines, don't believe it till you see it on the ramp and painted. 16-18 days away from home in a row, 11 months of the year (14 days of annual vacation = 1 calendar month off for vacation each year). 12+ hour duty days. Business class or better deadhead travel, hotels paid for in base. Pay lags ACMI industry average by about 20%. Plenty of opportunity to fly extra on your days off if you want it. That's the essence of Evergreen. Good luck to all those interested in joining. |
I have talked to several people in the last couple of new hire classes at Atlas and they have said that there are several Evergreen F/O's in each of the last few classes...
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Any chance someone can share some fresh insight on the smaller aircraft overseas operations? BE1900? Pay? Rotation? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by EZRider
(Post 857030)
ALPA Press Release:
As you can see, the pilot group uniformly desires improvements to the current conditions. We have our 5% though, of course. This vote also didn't allow any of our more recent hires (ex. Midwest, ATA, and Aloha guys, primarily) to vote because they are still on probation. In terms of hiring, that's who we're hiring and who's competitive. It's great to see that many of the pilots who've suffered during this industry downturn the most, losing their jobs as their company imploded, are being welcomed with warm arms here. Internal recommendations and a couple thousand hours of 737 or larger experience is competitive, but you'll never get hired if you don't put your stuff in. Rumor is we hired a pilot with nothing more than Dash-8 FO time, though that is certainly the exception to the norm. We have 9 747-200's (ex Luftansa and JAL), and 1 747-400 (the 2 remaining LCF's are on their way out). Rumors of more 747-400's and management talk of more -400's every month. Like all airlines, don't believe it till you see it on the ramp and painted. 16-18 days away from home in a row, 11 months of the year (14 days of annual vacation = 1 calendar month off for vacation each year). 12+ hour duty days. Business class or better deadhead travel, hotels paid for in base. Pay lags ACMI industry average by about 20%. Plenty of opportunity to fly extra on your days off if you want it. That's the essence of Evergreen. Good luck to all those interested in joining. Do you know where I would be able to find the contact information? Do I just need to fax in a resume/cover letter, or is there someone that I should call and speak with? Any information would be great! Thank you |
apply on their website.
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I just faxed my resume. I didn't touch that on line application. Once at the interview you will have to fill out a paper application by hand.
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Evergreen Airlines Poolies
Hi guys,
Just one of 13 poolies currently swimming. Any insight about what could occur with us would be swell. No pun intended. |
Originally Posted by Hawker Driver
(Post 857954)
Hi guys,
Just one of 13 poolies currently swimming. Any insight about what could occur with us would be swell. No pun intended. I didn't realize they had so many in the pool. They still have plans for classes in Sept/Oct/Nov. They have usually kept the class sizes to 4 pilots but have run classes with 6 pilots. Last month they said they were going to increase the # of crews per plane so I assume the hiring will have to continue full speed ahead. The new hires coming in don't even cover the # of FOs leaving right now. So until the attrition slows down, they aren't going to be able to increase the manning. The TA just got shot down this week with 96% of the voters saying NO. It remains to be seen what happens next in the process. If the big wigs in Mcminnville don't open the checkbook, theres no telling what happens. |
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
(Post 857974)
I didn't realize they had so many in the pool. They still have plans for classes in Sept/Oct/Nov. They have usually kept the class sizes to 4 pilots but have run classes with 6 pilots. Last month they said they were going to increase the # of crews per plane so I assume the hiring will have to continue full speed ahead. The new hires coming in don't even cover the # of FOs leaving right now. So until the attrition slows down, they aren't going to be able to increase the manning.
The TA just got shot down this week with 96% of the voters saying NO. It remains to be seen what happens next in the process. If the big wigs in Mcminnville don't open the checkbook, theres no telling what happens. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 857977)
Where are they all going? Atlas?
Some have gone to Atlas. Others have just called it quits. Two of the recent guys that quit were tired of being on the road non-stop with nothing to really show for it on payday. |
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
(Post 857988)
Some have gone to Atlas. Others have just called it quits. Two of the recent guys that quit were tired of being on the road non-stop with nothing to really show for it on payday.
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Do they Type you on the Aircraft?
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If any one would have info on who they'll look at, it would be great. I heard a rumor that you must have jet time, so those of us who have been banging around in a prop need not apply. Any word?
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Interviewing in a couple weeks. 6500TT, all turbine, with lots of AF KC-135 (Boeing) time which person who called me said was good. He also mentioned a couple furloughed Midwest guys were in the interview class.
Anybody have interview gouge? (pm) |
Evergreen
geeitup1,
Just curious how long it took to hear from them. I just applied this past Friday. |
Originally Posted by UBOAT DRIVER
(Post 859880)
geeitup1,
Just curious how long it took to hear from them. I just applied this past Friday. |
Evergreen
Thanks, I will give it a try.
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I filled out the on-line app. And shortly after got an email to confirm. Also sent Cover and Resume to Fax number. Will keep you posted. Where is the latest interview gouge?
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The Gliem ATP written prep book will help you on the 20 question test. No wt & balance Q's. The gouges on "Willflyforfood"-Evergreen-will help tremendously with that and alot regarding likely interview qustions such as:
1-Why Evergreen? 2-Why should we hire you? 3-What will you bring to this Co.? 4-What is a weakness of yours? Etc I'm in the pool, but I have no clue what occurs with their poolies. Anyone know? Regards! |
evergreen is as good as dead. dying owner dying company.I know the employees that are ther would like to think thak ther is going to be some last repreieve. but the fact is he has treated his crewes like **** for 30 years and ther is going to be no turn around.if you want to pick up some heavy time go some wher else. atlas, kallitta, southern, national, world, omni, north american. the point is dell just does not like to share his riches. The capt side of evergeen is filled with hopefules. 3/4 of the capt side of the evergreen seniority list is 20 pluser's they have been waiting. i call them the faithful but under paid. u have 30 + year capt making what some one at atlas made 10 years ago. if ya want trng go to evergreen
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Like all the non skeds Evergreen has had up and down times. Somehow the old man finds rabbits to pull out of the hat and is about the only outfit to never declare bankruptcy. Keep your expectations in check and remember it is a NON-SKED. It's not for everybody.
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Originally Posted by Hawker Driver
(Post 860278)
The Gliem ATP written prep book will help you on the 20 question test. No wt & balance Q's. The gouges on "Willflyforfood"-Evergreen-will help tremendously with that and alot regarding likely interview qustions such as:
1-Why Evergreen? 2-Why should we hire you? 3-What will you bring to this Co.? 4-What is a weakness of yours? Etc I'm in the pool, but I have no clue what occurs with their poolies. Anyone know? Regards! |
Thanks green Giant!!!!!:D
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What happened at Evergreen last week? Are hiring plans on hold? Some of the guys in the pool say they received an email from Evergreen saying they had been "flushed from the pool." Is anyone still getting calls or responses to resumes or invitations to an interview?
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I interviewed with Evergreen earlier this year and did not get the call. Many of their final questions dealt with how many years I was going to be at Evergreen before I left for greener pastures. Evidently I feign loyalty as well as I play poker: poorly. The management knows the conditions are sub-par for their industry segment. Their President of the Airline Division left and went to Omni (I think) the day after I interviewed. I was not sold on the company returning the level of committment to me that they required of me for them and it probably showed.
That being said, it is Ultra Long Haul on demand cargo. I have heard nothing but good things about the crews and the flying. If it is the only job that keeps you in aviation, I think it will be tolerable, and the flying fun. If it is the only thing a regional guy has cooking, then I think it is a good place to go. 747 time and type looks good on a resume anywhere you go. Just like anywhere else, interview them as they interview you and keep your expectations low. That way you may be pleasantly suprised. Good luck to those trying to get on. |
Evergreen Poolies
Originally Posted by captfurlough
(Post 863504)
What happened at Evergreen last week? Are hiring plans on hold? Some of the guys in the pool say they received an email from Evergreen saying they had been "flushed from the pool." Is anyone still getting calls or responses to resumes or invitations to an interview?
I'm one of those who was swimming in the pool for one month as of today. Just got the e-mail about an hour ago. Since the interviews take place on Thursdays , I believe flushing occurs on Thusday afternoons after the new poolies have been scored and placed into the competitive pool. Survived last week. Not this time though. |
Originally Posted by Hawker Driver
(Post 865008)
Hi,
I'm one of those who was swimming in the pool for one month as of today. Just got the e-mail about an hour ago. Since the interviews take place on Thursdays , I believe flushing occurs on Thusday afternoons after the new poolies have been scored and placed into the competitive pool. Survived last week. Not this time though. |
Any updates to Evergreen?
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They had an ad out on one of the major boards yesterday for 747 FO's.
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Looking for more info regarding contract negotiations or if there's a possible future strike, furloughs, pay, retirements and upgrades, schedules, etc. Thanks!
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Evergreen is a great place for a single guy with no debt..
Seriously, I had 3 good years there and they hired me from the left seat of a DC-3 to the right seat of a DC-8...No jet time. Long lay-overs in exotic places guaranteed lots of booze and puzzy. Good guys to fly with and good flying. :cool: |
I have a Interview on Thursday, any information regarding the process would be greatly appreciated!
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Just be yourself. They will be taking a good look at your personality and asking themselves if they would want to share the flight deck with you for 12 hours. That is it and good luck.
I am sure that when the interview is over, you will think it was just like hanging out with your friends. Low stress type interview. |
I agree. Nice people at McMinnville. I've been holding out for the job for 6 months now. For me, the commute and schedule is perfect.
MR JT8D (soon to be MR JT9D) |
Or MR. PW4056 if you want to fly Glass.
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