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tyler2118 02-23-2011 04:57 PM

I got a call in three days with one internal rec. I have 3000 hours no jet and 1 failed ride

dutch747 02-23-2011 05:48 PM

I failed my ASEL when on the final landing (Normal Landing Maneuver)I landed 10 ft short of the aimpoint on a 13,500 ft long runway. It was a mis-communication between me and the examiner when he said within 200ft of the aimpoint and actually meant 200ft at or beyond the aimpoint.

So why do I say this? Because I would hate to think that ASA would not even look at my app for one failed checkride. Some examiners view checkride failure as "everyone should have one" and don't think it has any impact on our careers.

Sorry for the threadjack.

tyler2118 02-24-2011 01:30 AM

It took my a couple of trys to get it sent but I got a call in 3 days.

dutch747 03-24-2011 06:28 PM

ASA Lowered their minimums on Airline Apps from 1000/200 to 500/50. They did this 6 months ago to "as a test to capture more applications".

Anybody know if this another case of the "capturing more applications" or are they actually lowering their minimum hiring requirements?

BTW: They also posted they are hiring on Climb to 350.

bcaviator 03-24-2011 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 953291)
I failed my ASEL when on the final landing (Normal Landing Maneuver)I landed 10 ft short of the aimpoint on a 13,500 ft long runway. It was a mis-communication between me and the examiner when he said within 200ft of the aimpoint and actually meant 200ft at or beyond the aimpoint.

I wouldn't use that excuse. Excuses are like bums. Everyones got them, and most of them stink.

dutch747 03-24-2011 07:15 PM

You miss the point. It wasn't about making excuses, it was about not hiring anyone who has a checkride failure. Thanks for the enlightenment about excuses, never heard that before...

snippercr 03-24-2011 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 970132)
ASA Lowered their minimums on Airline Apps from 1000/200 to 500/50. They did this 6 months ago to "as a test to capture more applications".

Anybody know if this another case of the "capturing more applications" or are they actually lowering their minimum hiring requirements?

BTW: They also posted they are hiring on Climb to 350.

Interesting. On their [ASA] website though they still have listed ATP, 1500 TT and 300 ME. I listed them as a "targeted" company for Airline apps about 3 months ago and with those new mins, I meet their time (I have ~1000/50ME) and obviously have received no communication. No recs or anything.

Also, the problem I posted previously about seems to have been corrected - IE they removed the extra question about passport that I think might have been causing a problem. We'll see for sure if they really are 500/50. Seems awfully low given this hiring climate but who knows. Stranger things have happened. Maybe I'll get a call! Gotta run, lottery drawings are on!

B767 03-24-2011 08:33 PM

It's just what their HR has set to their "search criteria" on airline apps. Doesn't necessarily mean they've lowered their mins. Although, they're both connected in my mind.

Hiring climate? There is no hiring climate. There was absolutely nothing going on for 3 years. Most of the people who were hoping for the quick trip to the regionals in 06-08 have since gained many more hours and don't want to work for them (read: regionals). The others that were hoping for a quick trip have since faded away since there's no zero to hero happening right now.

I truly believe that this so called hiring climate is made up. There aren't that many high time pilots willing to work for a regional airline. There are plenty of people out there that meet the mins, they just don't want to do it....
Pinnacle is taking 300 hour wonders again. PDT has hired a few with less than 300.

Once again, my opinion. Which is worth a bum ;)

jetlink 03-24-2011 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 953291)
I failed my ASEL when on the final landing (Normal Landing Maneuver)I landed 10 ft short of the aimpoint on a 13,500 ft long runway. It was a mis-communication between me and the examiner when he said within 200ft of the aimpoint and actually meant 200ft at or beyond the aimpoint.

So why do I say this? Because I would hate to think that ASA would not even look at my app for one failed checkride. Some examiners view checkride failure as "everyone should have one" and don't think it has any impact on our careers.

Sorry for the threadjack.

My friend, I have been flying for 17 years, and I can tell you, that there are two types of pilots: those that have failed check ride, and pilots that will.
However, after going personally through, and administrating so many checkrides events, as well as line checks, I can tell you, that failed event is caused by not one, non-proficient maneuver, but by combination of events that are similar in nature. So if you overshot your landing, and you think that was contributing factor for your failed checkride, I would suggest, that you go over your entire checkride event, and find out way you have been pink "sliped". Good luck in your future aviation endeavors. ;-)

dutch747 03-24-2011 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by jetlink (Post 970210)
My friend, I have been flying for 17 years, and I can tell you, that there are two types of pilots: those that have failed check ride, and pilots that will.
However, after going personally through, and administrating so many checkrides events, as well as line checks, I can tell you, that failed event is caused by not one, non-proficient maneuver, but by combination of events that are similar in nature. So if you overshot your landing, and you think that was contributing factor for your failed checkride, I would suggest, that you go over your entire checkride event, and find out way you have been pink "sliped". Good luck in your future aviation endeavors. ;-)

And Again, my point is not about the failed check. The point is about ASA not hiring anyone who has ever failed a check. Please read the thread. And since we are giving out resumes, I've been flying for 25 years and have been both a 121 Check, and a military examiner. Please don't read between the lines.

You have some very good points, but are totally off base with what I'm trying to say.

Let me try this again. This new hiring criteria seems to be centered around the Dash 8 in Buffalo. And now because of this unfortunate accident, the knee jerk reaction is to not hire anyone who has failed a checkride. My original threadjack was that good pilots fail checkrides - as you know.

So lets start on new thread on failed checks and leave this thread to ASA pilot hiring. Thanks


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