Heard roughly the same thing.. I didn't hear about numbers, only that through roughly 2015 the training department should be kept busy... Keep 'em coming!!!

I appreciate the info but I'm very frustrated with the process. I couldn't get in this last round because I didn't have an ATP. A week after the window closed I got it. One of my internal reccs checked into it and they likely won't open the window for application updates again until spring. I guess I understand from their perspective but if it means that many people, and potentially younger people getting hired in front of me, that could make an enormous difference in the quality of the career...

Don't take this the wrong way, but there were a couple of thousand applicants who met the ATP requirement and had it before the window closed... Are you frustrated that Hawaiian closed the window before you received your ATP or that the window won't be open again for a few more months?

I could understand being frustrated with the interview process. It can be long and confusing at times. But being frustrated that you didn't meet one of their minimums in time isn't really something Hawaiian has control over.

This is life. Check the entitlement attitude at the door. There were folks that had planned a year in advance to obtain their ATP on their own dime just to position themselves for the window to open. If you are so concerned about seniority, don't bother. Most of us just want the opportunity to work there.

YGTBFK! So by your logic I should be ****ed at all the people hired on at HA without any TPIC. Please do not apply because of all the younger folks ahead of you.

one more question how are you flying a 757/767 without an ATP? probably just another silver spoon douche.

I hate to jump on the bandwagon on this but the fact that you didn't have your ATP is only one person's fault. YOURS!! If you were not ready for when the window opened up that is no one else's problem. Not the company nor the junior guy that may get hired ahead of you. Bottom line is THEY were prepared and YOU weren't. I fell short of the mins by 25 hours but I am not blaming the company, I am only patiently waiting for the next window to open and reapply. Accept Responsibility!!

No, it's not by any means their fault. And I also didn't pay enough attention and stay in good enough contact with my internal reccs to know that would be an absolute requirement. It's just a bit frustrating that they only seem to accept application changes once a year which is rare for an airline doing that much hiring. But that's their process, and now I know it well. All I can do is be more prepared in the future.

Phase III invites for next Monday have started to go out....

You recieved one? Congrats! I'm doing the doggy paddle and checking my email every 15min. Phase I and II in Aug.

Fingers crossed, lighting candles, rabbit's foot, haven't taken off my lucky socks.......

For the guys that have been called for interviews what kind of hours and equipment have you been flying?

Thanks in advance.