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MaroonBaboon 01-16-2013 04:15 PM

Atlas or Omni
 
I introduce myself.

Which is more preferable place to work, Atlas or Omni?

Thank you. Looking forward to friendship.

MaroonBaboon

RunnerMark 01-16-2013 04:24 PM

No poll. Do the research.

jetjock6 01-16-2013 04:38 PM

Let me help you out...

Many of us left Omni for Atlas.

No one leaves Atlas for Omni.

That would be like leaving Delta for Mesa.

MaroonBaboon 01-16-2013 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by RunnerMark (Post 1332061)
No poll. Do the research.

Thank you

I have read the rules

Poll is research. Please choose.

MaroonBaboon 01-16-2013 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by jetjock6 (Post 1332069)
Let me help you out...

Many of us left Omni for Atlas.

No one leaves Atlas for Omni.

That would be like leaving Delta for Mesa.

Thank you.

I have read the rules.

744driver 01-16-2013 04:55 PM

Ok, I'll bite!!

A job at Atlas these days is highly competitive...I don't know how tough it is to get on at Omni.

Here's a solution...get on at Omni, get some big airplane time (assuming you don't have any), and as soon as your OE is done at Omni, start calling friends at Atlas, and apply at Atlas Air, Inc.

Good luck...and btw, don't forget to read the mega-thread about the Atlas job http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ir-hiring.html currently at 538 pages!!

BlueHenFR8Dawg 01-16-2013 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by jetjock6 (Post 1332069)
Let me help you out...

Many of us left Omni for Atlas.

No one leaves Atlas for Omni.

That would be like leaving Delta for Mesa.

+1... MB, not to come off like an a$$, but are you part 135, or a rj-guy?

Vertigo1960 01-16-2013 06:01 PM

Voted. Wannabee

Hope I didn't skew vote. Omni has a good group of pilots; however, as the Dr. asked: 1 or 2?

F15andMD11 01-16-2013 06:04 PM

Seriously??:eek: I won't even read what was written. "Regional" of ACMI or "Major" of ACMI?

ultradrvr 01-17-2013 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Vertigo1960 (Post 1332144)
Voted. Wannabee

Hope I didn't skew vote. Omni has a good group of pilots; however, as the Dr. asked: 1 or 2?

Ditto!!!! There are still a bunch of good pilots there. I will say this....Omni is the reason they hired me at Atlas....well that and my hair.

LNL76 01-17-2013 07:59 AM

Anyone who knows anything about ACMI knows Atlas is the cream of the crop!

744driver 01-17-2013 08:02 AM

You sure about that?...I call it the cream of the crap.

Talon1011 01-17-2013 08:18 AM

All I can say is that I'm happy here. You'd have to pry me out with a crowbar. It's pretty much just like what I loved most about flying C-141s but without the tents and MREs. :cool:

744driver 01-17-2013 10:07 AM

Ask the guys where they spent their lovely nights in Afghanistan when the jet broke!!

Hint...it was a tent, so don't be so sure that you'll never be in a tent ever again. Even at Atlas, it may happen...but not very often.:D

NightIP 01-17-2013 10:17 AM

I'm going to save my comments until my employment is up with Omni in 11 days. I'll just say that Omni is what it is, and I'm glad I got the opportunity to go build heavy international time. Fantastic pilot group, too. They will be missed.

But...guess where I'm leaving Omni for?

MaroonBaboon 01-17-2013 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1332770)
Ask the guys where they spent their lovely nights in Afghanistan when the jet broke!!

Hint...it was a tent, so don't be so sure that you'll never be in a tent ever again. Even at Atlas, it may happen...but not very often.:D

Thank you.

Tent is OK sometimes at Atlas.

MaroonBaboon 01-17-2013 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 1332780)
I'm going to save my comments until my employment is up with Omni in 11 days. I'll just say that Omni is what it is, and I'm glad I got the opportunity to go build heavy international time. Fantastic pilot group, too. They will be missed.

But...guess where I'm leaving Omni for?

Thank you.

Please choose for poll.

Where are you leaving if not Atlas? Why?

HA717 01-17-2013 12:44 PM

Where are the Omni guys on the seniority list doing the 762 between LAS-HNL? That seems like the best gig in the system there.

NightIP 01-18-2013 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by HA717 (Post 1332915)
Where are the Omni guys on the seniority list doing the 762 between LAS-HNL? That seems like the best gig in the system there.

Very senior on the captain side, very junior on the F/O side.

RedeyeAV8r 01-18-2013 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by MaroonBaboon (Post 1332049)
I introduce myself.

Which is more preferable place to work, Atlas or Omni?

Thank you. Looking forward to friendship.

MaroonBaboon

You will hear this over and over.

If you do not have an offer from both why ask?
If you are willing to work for either, assuming only 1 offers you a job then certainly apply to both and take the first offer. If you get a subsequent offer from the other then you and only you can decide based on your personal set of circumstances, where you live or want to live. Schedules verses pay potential growth, new airplane firm orders etc, etc etc.
These Who should I work for Poles are usually meaningless as most who ask these questions do not have an offer from either.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound brash, but Just saying.......:rolleyes:

MaroonBaboon 01-18-2013 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r (Post 1333474)
You will hear this over and over.

If you do not have an offer from both why ask?
If you are willing to work for either, assuming only 1 offers you a job then certainly apply to both and take the first offer. If you get a subsequent offer from the other then you and only you can decide based on your personal set of circumstances, where you live or want to live. Schedules verses pay potential growth, new airplane firm orders etc, etc etc.
These Who should I work for Poles are usually meaningless as most who ask these questions do not have an offer from either.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound brash, but Just saying.......:rolleyes:

Thank you.

If not FedEx: Atlas or Omni?

Please choose in poll.

I add you to friends.

May life have much meaning for you.

HA717 01-18-2013 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 1333466)
Very senior on the captain side, very junior on the F/O side.

Mahalos braddah!

HercDriver130 01-18-2013 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1332637)
You sure about that?...I call it the cream of the crap.

+1.......with K4 being whats left of the cream lol

MaroonBaboon 01-18-2013 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 1333741)
+1.......with K4 being whats left of the cream lol

Thank you.

I search Google for K4.

Website say no cream or crap. How is K4 possible as professional pilot?

Urban Dictionary: K4

BlueHenFR8Dawg 01-18-2013 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1332637)
You sure about that?...I call it the cream of the crap.

I know that's an ACMI inside joke. I've had a many of BIG beers, at Michael's, with many of you. Good luck, hoping to join my brothers from another mother before I have to go to the dark side... aka, non-ACMI.

ATCsaidDoWhat 01-18-2013 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1332637)
You sure about that?...I call it the cream of the crap.

No...no...NO...that was reserved for those of us who flew for Connie in the 90's. You MAY NOT steal our thunder unless you have YIP and OSC in your logbook, can name both dogs...AND the second and fourth words in each of the mans sentences...:D

ATCsaidDoWhat 01-18-2013 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by MaroonBaboon (Post 1333759)
Thank you.

I search Google for K4.

Website say no cream or crap. How is K4 possible as professional pilot?

Urban Dictionary: K4

What does Google say about "troll?"

BlueHenFR8Dawg 01-18-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1333822)
No...no...NO...that was reserved for those of us who flew for Connie in the 90's. You MAY NOT steal our thunder unless you have YIP and OSC in your logbook, can name both dogs...AND the second and fourth words in each of the mans sentences...:D

The Green-tail was the fondue in the 90s then Connie decided to run an airline.. Cudos!! Atlas came along during our GATEX door debacle and have been thouroughbreeds since.. YIP.. dc9 days. Your us customs blows!! OSC, we still have one of our GE-classics there

captainv 01-19-2013 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by MaroonBaboon (Post 1333759)
Thank you.

I search Google for K4.

Website say no cream or crap. How is K4 possible as professional pilot?

Urban Dictionary: K4


that's all you got? i wouldn't mind if you were actually funny...

HercDriver130 01-19-2013 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by MaroonBaboon (Post 1333759)
Thank you.

I search Google for K4.

Website say no cream or crap. How is K4 possible as professional pilot?

Urban Dictionary: K4

unbelievable.....

Hovernut 01-20-2013 08:00 PM

Isn't K4 some mountain in the Himalayas?? ;)
I'm happy to have interviewed at both, but made it in the pool of only one; so the choice was made FOR me...

ImperialxRat 01-21-2013 10:53 PM

Would you leave a Major for Atlas?

Seems to me like the flying at Atlas would be way more interesting, and I like my days off in a large block.

Thoughts from current Atlas employees?

RedeyeAV8r 01-21-2013 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by MaroonBaboon (Post 1333680)
Thank you.

If not FedEx: Atlas or Omni?

Please choose in poll.

I add you to friends.

May life have much meaning for you.


Sorry No need for a Poll

As I said before, if I really needed a Pilot Job and I had applied to both Atlas or Omni, I would take a job from the first one who offered me a Job.

blackbox 01-22-2013 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by ultradrvr (Post 1332501)
Ditto!!!! There are still a bunch of good pilots there. I will say this....Omni is the reason they hired me at Atlas....well that and my hair.

Your hair. You would go there. Don't worry, I'm still waking up everyday trying to be more like you. I think Booger has given up the dream.

DC8DRIVER 01-22-2013 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 1335617)
Would you leave a Major for Atlas?

Seems to me like the flying at Atlas would be way more interesting, and I like my days off in a large block.

Thoughts from current Atlas employees?

The flying IS interesting. Exotic, sometimes not the safest places. Destinations (more or less) depend on the base that you get. MIA gets more SA trips. JFK gets Europe, Mid East, and Africa. CVG and ANC get the Far and Mid East and all with plenty of exceptions.

Schedules are bid in either 30 or 60 day blocks and you can usually get large blocks of time off.

Leaving the major is a personal decision that I couldn't balance for you. Although the pay is on par with the majors, look closely at retirement and benefits as both are much less at Atlas than at most major airlines.

8

NightIP 01-22-2013 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by blackbox (Post 1335629)
I think Booger has given up the dream.

And he's making fat stacks in the process. :)

744driver 01-22-2013 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 1335617)
Would you leave a Major for Atlas?

Seems to me like the flying at Atlas would be way more interesting, and I like my days off in a large block.

Thoughts from current Atlas employees?

Everything DC8 said is spot on target...

We do have lots of guys that got furloughed from the "legacy" airlines during their many rounds of layoffs, and most of them have NOT accepted any recall offers. Obviously, by now, they have exhausted recall rights they might have had, because they feel the Atlas works better for them.

And likely more important...the alternatives are worse, meaning going back to UA, US, AA, etc and commuting to sit reserve across the country, and flying a narrow-body aircraft from ORD to MSP, etc is not something they want to do anymore...

That said, we did have a guy that was furloughed from UA and left Atlas to accept a job at Continental, and will get his rightful seniority back at UA when they are fully merge.

Good luck.

Whale Driver 01-22-2013 08:45 AM

I don't know of anyone who quit a major to go to work at Atlas, however many have gone the other way. My guess is that there are probably 12-20 more that will eventually accept recall to AA or UA. DO NOT be blinded by the airplane (747), after a month or so flying it, it is what it is. Just another airplane, there is nothing special or magical about it. Then it is just a job and don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. If you are contemplating coming to work here, do your homework and make sure you (more importantly, your family) will enjoy the lifestyle.

744driver 01-22-2013 10:00 AM

I agree with you about the 747 (and other widebodies), however, the point I should have made more clearly was that several of the legacy furloughed pilots at Atlas did not accept a recall because they do not want to go back to that kind of flying...it is a choice they made, and they seem happy to have made it.

HercDriver130 01-22-2013 10:19 AM

We (K4, aka Kalitta) have about 20 furloughed TWA/AA guys on our property, and another handful of UAL guys/gals. Some have already decided to go back.... after looking at the equity payout for the AA guys several have decided to go back immediately and I believe others will follow. FWI... the equity payout for a recalled guy at AA could be from low 5 figures... to as much as 150,000 for some of the guys. OH...they have to be on property by the end of 2013 to get that money...along with a few other restrictions. I dont know of any of our AA guys who have exhausted their recall rights....they have 3 years from when the most junior guy has been offered recall...and that still hasnt happened as of yet. It will be interesting to see who goes back over the next year or so that is for sure.


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