Mesa future hiring
 

Hi folks, this thread is mostly for any mesa pilot that has a good idea on your hiring. Based on info from this website, I have a few questions if anyone has the time. Do you have a time frame when HR is going to start making phone calls to bring people to PHX for interviews. Also, with it be stated that your 9 900's on there way, how many f/o's are you going to have to hire? Does mesa only hire low time people, I am one of many, I think that are out here with alot of time and experence, what are the chances these folks wil be called for a interview? I thank anyone that has a few minutes to reply, Everyone, have a great day!

How low of time are we talking. By August you must have 1500 hours. Why settle for Mesa when everyone else has the same minimums now? Unless you want to live in Phoenix.

Mesa furture hiring
 

Live in PHX and commute to another base?

Word is mesa is making those calls and hiring for classes April through July. figure 10 pilots per plane so it's a significant expansion for an airline with just under 600 pilots. The math for upgrade looks better than larger carriers.

+1... except for the live in Phoenix part, chances are (for now at least) you will be based in HI and living on food stamps. I'm curious what turns to on to Mesa..? It can't be the pay rates, contract that gets walked on, or unbearable upgrade time. Today's snapshot is that there are plenty of regionals hiring today that blow the doors off what Mesa can offer you. If anything this should be your last choice, read up!

Your math is wrong for a upgrade. Unless there is substantial growth. Like I said on many posts, most of the Captains are past or nearing 50. They make around 100,000 a year give or take and live in base. There is no reason for them to start over and risk a furlough at that age. Hiring off the street has started. A few were in the April 1st. class. Even with new growth it will take 5 years to hold Phoenix as an FO on reserve. But that could change with pilot attrition increasing. Come to Mesa for F.O. experience but don't plan on logging PIC any time soon.

If you're considering Mesa, you have neither alot of time nor experience:D

Unless 1500 hrs is the new high time pilot:cool:

Simple math really. Considering half Captains and half FO's, if they hire 150 pilots over six months, to meet expansion, you are half way to upgrade. 150 of 2300 pilots not as favorable. Of course, I didn't factor in the age of the Captains or how long it takes to get your domicile of choice.

So is every new hire being shipped to Hawaii now?
Do they have flight benefits still? With who?
Would Eagle be a better place?

The HI operation is very small, 30-35 pilots so once again the math spells the logic. I guess a new hire could be shipped to HI, but with the total number of openings exceeding the total number of HI pilots by a factor of 4, it would be a short trip.

No idea whats next, but the latest movement shows that of the 8 New Hires, 7 going to HI after training. 3 furlough recalls too. 7 current FOs that bid out.

Job security aside... Eagle has better pay, better work rules, and $5k bonus from 2 years commitment. Mesa will rope you into a 2 year $12k training contract. Maybe you could negotiate out of that but idk...

Either be based in the 48 with more pay and a $5k check, or go to HI for less and you can't(won't) quit because you're in the hole $12k. You pick.

I can't post in the other forums yet.

Can anyone elaborate on how may have been hired? If I take a class date in another two weeks, will I be towards the end? I heard a number of 90 new pilots. How many have already been hired? I'm not sure being at the very end of this hiring wave will be a smart move.

Are people really being sent to Hawaii? The company made it sound if this is voluntary and most were staying in the US to staff the new CRJ 900s.

Thanks for your time.

Hi Prior121.

Mesa needs pilots, that simple. I doubt very seriously if in two weeks you will be toward the end. From what I'm hearing, hiring is projected to continue into the summer. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes Hawaii is our Junior base, so it's the simple physics of it. A fair number of those spots get filled by the most JR pilots, who in the most recent case happen to be new-hires.

You're correct, the new hires ARE for the purpose of staffing the new CRJ 900s, but indirectly, right? Because it isn't like they can violate the seniority list to do it. In the most recent case, the new-hires ARE going to HI (because it is what their seniority can hold) So... Before they can offer better bases to those new hires, they have to offer them to every other senior FO at Mesa first. Apparently 7 or so Hawaii guys wanted out. Therefore 7 vacancies opened in HI, and walla, they were filled by the new hires.

I suppose there is a fair chance you can avoid Hawaii IF enough of the current new hires heading to HI like it and want to stay, or you get lucky, and end up at the top of a big enough class. But I would prepare myself for a stint in HI if I were you just to be safe.

Also, if you do end up in HI, you will be able to bid out soon enough when your seniority can hold the mainland,. IAD will be your first stop out of HI because it is the second most JR place.

I'm a little surprised that the company is saying HI is voluntary? For Captains that don't want to downgrade maybe, but seniority is what it is, and HI be JR! It isn't that big of a base though, so it can be filled (turned over) quickly, that is in your favor.

Hope this helps.

8 total new hires have reached the rosters... I read on here that another class is this monday but no way to tell how many are supposed to be there OR how many will actually show up.

If you mean seniority, then yes you'll be at the bottom of the list even if you start Monday. All depends if they continue to hire after you. There's really no "for sure" answer except that the earlier you get a #, the more senior you are to the people after you.

Well.... a smart move compared to what? I don't know your background but if you've got a good job, then stay. If you don't like your job, then move on. Like I said, the sooner the better if you want seniority... but how far this "wave" goes is anyone's guess. Unfortunately that's your gamble.

To start, yes people are being sent to HI. Read my last post here. But the point I really, really want to you to get is to please not be naive when it comes to "what the company says". Regardless what they say or don't say, imply or whatever, they're not obligated to follow through whatsoever. Liars? Maybe, and in my experience frequently. But unless it's written down in a binding agreement they will do what they please. Including sending you wherever there is a vacancy. I hope you get what you want, I really do, but regardless what they say.... they wont back it up SO don't count on it.

To each their own, I won't blame anyone for coming here, but I would just like to hear someone who is applying answer "Why Mesa?" There are better regionals out there accepting applications. "Better" may be subjective but the facts are that our pay (FOs), benefits, contract (in general) is dated and sub-standard. I want that to change as much as the next guy, but today it is what it is. The old days of the Mesa quick upgrade are the old days. I don't see any redeeming factors here other than our crews.

Mesa has a 1 year training contract, my mistake.

To: CSD2000, Hello, I just saw your reply to my post concerning Mesa's hiring. Thanks for taking the time to reply. If you another minute or two, I got the e-mail the other day about contacting HR about setting up a time for this web interview. Can you tell me anything about it, how long does it last, any tech questions, any ATP questions, if you do fine on the interview, do they let you know right there, how you did? What about bases? do new hires get sent to HI. or do they get assigned to PHX. Any info you can send my way would be great! Have a great weekend.

Are you prior 121?

Also the Hawaii question had been answered a bunch....

Interview via camera
 

Hay, New Guy 007, did you get a answer about the Mesa interview process?? Or does anyone know the process via camera interview.? Thank you.

Is seniority within a class based on DOB, or SSN?

in 2004 it was based on DOB in your class

I also got a email regarding web interview.

Cool Ryotan16 if you hear anything or find out how the procedeure works please let us know. I replyed to their email last week and nothing yet??? Thank you.

I'm curious what a web interview consists of as well. Is it like an integrated system with a written test in-frame? Or do they ask questions on a Jepp plate virtually in a window on your computer or something?

Mesa future hiring
 

How's your pulse?

I did the Video interview. There were 2 crewmembers on the other end and it lasted about one hour. They were upbeat, knowledgeable and professional. There is no way to prepare as it was mostly HR/situational type questions that were derived from my application and past experience. They addressed all of my questions and as far as what they say...They actually referenced the pilot contact so I guess that qualifies as a binding agreement.

While I'm not sure about small details of all contracts,I can say that the 100% canelation pay is refreshing and rare. The training was excellant and I found the training staff to be just as professional and upbeat as the recruiters. Best part and biggest surprise since it wasn't pointed out before I hit the property...My family was able to visit because of the single occupancy hotel in training.

All in all...good experience.

A few days a go I also called the phone # that they provided and left message but never got a call back yet. so I'm like ????. Any updates?