LAfrequentflyer

I'm staying on active duty and retiring. Not because I need someone to fund my retirement - I don't. I've got plenty put away in mutual funds / Roth IRA. I can get a job in corporate america next week if I wanted... I encourage all military to put away additional money to supplement their retirement.

I joined / staying in the military because I like the work and leadership. It also pays well and my QOL is excellent. I only wish I could have gotten into UPT...I was too old by the time I commissioned to fly. I did apply for it w/ age waivers but was not accepted...I even applied to to be a WSO/EWO on F-15E / B-52s but didn't get picked-up for that program either...No problem - I'm glad I'm in the AF doing what I love- leading some of the finest men/women in our country...

There is nothing wrong with a military career (enlisted or officer)...Its a noble profession and my military brothers / sisters earn their pay everyday... They deserve the retirement / benefits owed them.

v/r,

SWAcapt

Amen, brother! I thank you for your service and dedication. I retired last year.(8act./12res.) You may have misunderstood my post. I'm sure you did not go into the AF for the sole purpose of achieving a retirement. I'm guessing that if you're anything like me, duty to country, service, challenge, excitement were probably your motivators and not money/retirement benies. Thanks for 'standing on the wall', we all sleep better at night for it.

LAfrequentflyer

No problem..I just wish i could have gotten commissioned a few years earlier- needed an age waiver for UPT...even with one i didn't get picked up for UTP or nav/eso/wso training.Oh well, i'll just enjoy life as a support officer...:-) life is still good...

V/r

Jetsnake

You are right, they do like former military.
Because??? They are experienced, well grounded and professional while
flying. Not to mention, good sticks for the most part and easier to train.
They (WE) know what to expect and generally have a better knowledge
of systems. This is just because in addition to everything you need to know
about your aircraft. You have multiple weapons systems that are not just
critical to your life, but perhaps the ground pounders that need your assistance in there time of need. Have you ever dropped a MK-82 within
50 meters of a company of Marines without a loss. (On our side)

Former military are used to being pushed around. It's called following orders
and being a disciplined individual regardless of rank. And as you would say
"Tehy do well at the factory". It should be stated as.........
"We do very well at the factory".
Just ask anyone that works at Federal Express, you could call this a factory.
But did you know that Federal Express has a do not furlough clause.
For all employee's. Thank Fred Smith,the CEO. A former Marine Aviator.
He started a small business with DA-20's(Falcons)that led into the creation
of the Challenger. Thanks to deregulation in 1978. He was able to start
something with older 727-100 series aircraft that everyone said was just non-sense. However when Federal Express went to convert the older 727's they
found things that were not ever suppose to wear out. But they did.
This is why you still see 727's flying in the sky's of our great country.

Just as a jester, not a slam; you might consider looking at the top 100
Fortune companies. Look at the history of the present and past CEO's,COO's,
and CFO's.

If you decide to take a peek at the major big business' that have gone under in the last couple years. Enron,Tyco. There leaders have no military background. Nor does their lower mgt.

So don't ask me why I'm at regional flying a CL-65. I'll tell you.
I'm retired miltary. Doing O.K. I have frickin earned it.
I have seen and done more putang than you or your friends can count
on all didgets.

But the best thing I can ever say that I have done is; this?
I have really enjoyed my career, both military and civilian.

Just having a good overnight with great food and drink

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SWAcapt

BZ Snake, Semper Fi!

OrionFE

I second that BZ!

LAfrequentflyer

Snake - your real name isn't Bull Meechum is it?

:-)


V/r,
Cajun's Fan..

"I've recently observed that for certain throwbacks of the species, for certain gung ho dinosaurs, of which I proudly number myself as one, being a warrior without a war has its problems."

shamu

God I love marines... I'm holding my beer high to all of the guys who slept in the sand and loved it. I prefer the Royal Alokai, Hale Koa and the Orchid, but I'm just a spoiled, fat Air Force Reservist.

Um... Semper Fi

SkyHigh

Military

Dear Jetsnake,

My wish was not to offend and am sorry if I did so. My intent was to explain how those with a military past and military tendencies do well in a structured and closely directed environment. Not everyone can exceed under such circumstances. I agree that most companies are staffed by CEO's with a military past however I would like to point out that most companies and organizations are started by free thinkers and those with more of an open mind and self directed nature. Many pilots who came to Horizon from a single pilot night freight or Alaska bush pilot background are repelled by the strict Horizon Air system. Joiners and boy scouts not only survive the beatings but are inspired by the strong discipline and order. Sorry again if I upset anyone. I like the military and military people.

SkyHigh

Fokker28

"...lesson number one, never listen to old Captains on how to get hired anywhere."

Lesson number two: "Pay even less attention to people who don't even work at the carrier in question!"