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bigD 11-25-2016 09:49 AM
Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2249712)
In Green Bay, which is a low-cost area, a C-172 is almost $150/hour, without an instructor.


Wow!!! That is crazy!!! I am in Sacramento and currently pay $115 an hour wet for a 172N with a 430 and could get one cheaper if I was willing to drive.


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PotatoChip 11-25-2016 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2249712)
In Green Bay, which is a low-cost area, a C-172 is almost $150/hour, without an instructor.
That has to be high...
I live in Philadelphia and can rest a C152 for $83, a C172 for $103, a C172N with a Gamin 430 for $113, and a C172SP for about $130.

GogglesPisano 11-25-2016 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2248390)
A 4-year government college.
What exactly is a "government college?"

GogglesPisano 11-25-2016 02:50 PM
When regionals offer starting pay in $60-70K range, and "training bonds" become a thing of the past, then I'll be convinced.

galaxy flyer 11-25-2016 04:21 PM
The Point, Canoe U, Zoomie Academy for three government universities.

GF

FlyingSlowly 11-25-2016 07:08 PM
Originally Posted by Singlecoil (Post 2249121)
I am a 16,000 hour airline pilot. The day my phone rings and there is a head hunter on the other end of the line is the day I believe there is a pilot shortage.
Bingo!

Though, as someone starting soon at the regionals, I'm just glad things aren't as bad as they were in the not-so-distant past...

atpcliff 11-25-2016 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2249879)
When regionals offer starting pay in $60-70K range, and "training bonds" become a thing of the past, then I'll be convinced.
U r now convinced. that is the going rate now ($60K), for new FOs at the regionals...training bonds are long gone at all/almost all regionals.

4V14T0R 11-26-2016 08:25 AM
Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2250083)
U r now convinced. that is the going rate now ($60K), for new FOs at the regionals...training bonds are long gone at all/almost all regionals.


Yeah and then you take a pay cut in year 2 and onwards until year 4 or 5 CA pay. The whole pay scheme is so screwed up right now.

Scraggly Heron 12-07-2016 05:05 PM
More fuel for this fire: I've looked into about 8 flying guard/reserve units, and all of them were significantly overmanned and awash in applications.

It appears the only places where there's not a glut of pilots are fighter units and regional airlines with pay under $35k per year.

Side note--don't rule out the defense industry (Lockheed, Boeing, Northrop, etc.) for flying jobs. There are some great opportunities if you can get hired.

sherpster 12-07-2016 05:34 PM
No shortage. Not even close.


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