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Aviatrix Gal 08-20-2018 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by fivebyfive (Post 2658813)
The QX pilots in next months class are hold overs from the guaranteed interview program that have been in the pool for quite some time. QX has only provided an estimate of 17 pathways pilots to be moved up this fall. They also included a disclaimer that there are no guarantees that this will even happen. AG is milking this Pathway Program to attract as many QX new hires as possible before the program looses its legitimacy.

The chief pilot told new hires today that only 206 QXers are in the CPP, so they can expect to get to go to Alaska in 3.5 years. :D

snackysmores 08-26-2018 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatrix Gal (Post 2658881)
The chief pilot told new hires today that only 206 QXers are in the CPP, so they can expect to get to go to Alaska in 3.5 years. :D

Wildly inaccurate. There's a lot of people who aren't putting themselves on the list because they're actively trying to get to other places. If their plans don't work out, they can just opt in whenever they want since it's seniority based. There's no rush, and nothing stopping someone from waiting to opt in until they're within 20 numbers of going.

Dashdrvr 08-26-2018 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2662591)
Wildly inaccurate. There's a lot of people who aren't putting themselves on the list because they're actively trying to get to other places. If their plans don't work out, they can just opt in whenever they want since it's seniority based. There's no rush, and nothing stopping someone from waiting to opt in until they're within 20 numbers of going.

Yup I am one waiting to opt in.

Excargodog 08-27-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2662591)
Wildly inaccurate. There's a lot of people who aren't putting themselves on the list because they're actively trying to get to other places. If their plans don't work out, they can just opt in whenever they want since it's seniority based. There's no rush, and nothing stopping someone from waiting to opt in until they're within 20 numbers of going.

Which begs the question as to whether he was woefully ignorant of that or knowingly deceiving the newbies.

There isn't actually a GOOD answer ti that sort of question though...

snackysmores 08-27-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2662917)
Which begs the question as to whether he was woefully ignorant of that or knowingly deceiving the newbies.

There isn't actually a GOOD answer ti that sort of question though...

Probably both. Woefully ignorant, but if he learned the truth he would still knowingly deceive new hires to get them in the door.

Aviatrix Gal 08-27-2018 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2662591)
Wildly inaccurate. There's a lot of people who aren't putting themselves on the list because they're actively trying to get to other places. If their plans don't work out, they can just opt in whenever they want since it's seniority based. There's no rush, and nothing stopping someone from waiting to opt in until they're within 20 numbers of going.

Totally accurate that that's what he said. But I know what you mean. I was just stating a fact, not as opinion. My opinion is that it's a bs hiring gimmick. I also find it interesting that he quoted 3.5 years at 50% flow, which means only 400 new hires at Alaska the next 4 years instead of the. 7-800 Alaska is claiming to hire in the next 3 years...

I'm told "DEC" are not getting the left seat out of training any more either...

Out of curiosity, what is the reason for waiting to join the pathway program?
:D

snackysmores 08-27-2018 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatrix Gal (Post 2663214)

Out of curiosity, what is the reason for waiting to join the pathway program?
:D

Handing over your employee records to Alaska and anyone else they want to give them to.

Varsity 08-28-2018 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2663280)
Handing over your employee records to Alaska and anyone else they want to give them to.

Sounds like they can close the window to the program at any point they want.

Fleet Warp 08-28-2018 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2663280)
Handing over your employee records to Alaska and anyone else they want to give them to.

That's not different then the American flow agreements. Endeavors preferential Delta interview has the same requirement.

What are you afraid of?

flysnoopy76 08-28-2018 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Aviatrix Gal (Post 2663214)
Totally accurate that that's what he said. But I know what you mean. I was just stating a fact, not as opinion. My opinion is that it's a bs hiring gimmick. I also find it interesting that he quoted 3.5 years at 50% flow, which means only 400 new hires at Alaska the next 4 years instead of the. 7-800 Alaska is claiming to hire in the next 3 years...

I'm told "DEC" are not getting the left seat out of training any more either...

Out of curiosity, what is the reason for waiting to join the pathway program?
:D

Not sure where the 700-800 number is coming from, there are three more classes this year for a total of 40-50 and nothing announced beyond that. At the “growth rate” they are talking about there won’t be any need for those kind of new hire numbers.


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