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DashAviator 09-12-2018 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2671291)
attendance records, discipline records, and all irregularity / safety reports.

I spent nearly six years on reserve. There were several years in there where Horizon was desperately short-staffed. Reserves would be used right up to their legal limits... every day. I remember being assigned to PM airport reserve, getting to the airport, and seeing a 4-day trip on my line with a 12:30 departure.

Due to the abusive schedules, I'd call in fatigued five or six times a year. Some of my sick calls were also caused by fatigue. I'm sure the company already knows about this. I'm not going to apologize for making a safety-related decision (fatigue call), but I'm not sure I want these disclosed thorough the Pathways program.

Snacky has explained the problems with the Pathways program much more clearly than I can. One final note: The Pathways program is NOT a flow-through, and there is no flow back. If you get fired or furloughed from Alaska, then you're not a Horizon pilot again... you're an unemployed Alaska pilot.

rickair7777 09-19-2018 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2671291)
attendance records, discipline records, and all irregularity / safety reports.


ASAP is confidential. Even from your current employer, they would have to violate an MOU with the FAA to break that.

I did essentially all of my safety reporting via ASAP (a few to CYA, but most to help improve things). Several reasons...

1. Make sure the fed sees it.
2. Confidentiality.
3. Ease of use, that was the system I was familiar with.

DashAviator 09-19-2018 12:03 PM

The company requires us to file a fatigue report for any fatigue call. I always file an ASAP report as well. This alerts the ASAP committee and the FAA to any scheduling practices or irregular operations that might contribute to fatigue.

snackysmores 09-19-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2677176)
ASAP is confidential. Even from your current employer, they would have to violate an MOU with the FAA to break that.

I did essentially all of my safety reporting via ASAP (a few to CYA, but most to help improve things). Several reasons...

1. Make sure the fed sees it.
2. Confidentiality.
3. Ease of use, that was the system I was familiar with.


Correct, ASAP is confidential. Irregularity/safety reports are what they're after.

GUFN 11-14-2018 09:01 PM

Over in the Alaska Hiring sub-thread I see there is some recent hiring. Any QX Pathway pilots in the new bunch?

Vanilla 11-15-2018 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by GUFN (Post 2708537)
Over in the Alaska Hiring sub-thread I see there is some recent hiring. Any QX Pathway pilots in the new bunch?

Latest pathway list shows 5 QX pilots (1 alternate) moving over in December.


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