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Don’t forget you will only get DC if you have at least 5 years at Horizon.

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Originally Posted by hydrostream (Post 3423135)

LoL cujo’s just trying to start some ****.

it apparently concerned AAG management enough though didn’t it.

the clandestine rumor mill had yours much better than what’s posted here.

anyway, a rising tide lifts all boats.

tell your NC to get back to work.

Horizon was concerned because of AAG's ties to American which leaked what their wholly owned was about to drop. What's head scratching is QX trying to get our LOA out and done when they knew all these other 'better' offers at other regionals was going to be released right before we had the vote. IMO this kills QX. They can't match the recently released offers because of the aircraft drawdown situation... they openly said the intent is to not retain pilots less than 5 years and need the majority of them to move on with the reduction in fleet, but they need to retain the lifers and anyone over 5 years thinking about staying longer (Check pilots) so they can eventually rebuild. QX pilot group votes No and then what? Match the market and hope the less than 5 years pilots leave so a lot of money isn't burned? Management might have one more offer but would be surprised if they matched what's out there now unless they specifically gave huge bonuses to pilots >5 years.

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Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3439964)

After talking to some of my coworkers and watching the union's road shows, I'm convinced that I made the right choice in voting "NO". Many of the provisions in the LOA don't go into effect until 2023. In particular, the 4.2 credit hour guarantee for the jet becomes effective on September 1, 2023. The company's basically saying "Help us through the summer and the holiday flying season, and we'll maybe pay you later". This isn't a LOA - it's an IOU.

** Help us through TWO summers

Yes, it's an IOU that I feel is going to have a 75% or more NO on it

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Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3438592)

You must be talking historically. As of today, to my knowledge, there isn't a DC at the regional level, only matching.

3% at Air Wisconsin. Plus another 5% match. If you toss in 8 of your own, you’re doing 16% Now, lots of other stuff wrong with Whiskey, but there’s that…

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Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3439964)

I think they realize that the only reason to vote yes is if you are planning on staying until 2023 when 4.2 would kick in. So I think management was hoping for around a 60% yes vote and that would reassure them that roughly 60% of our pilots want to stick around until 2023.

I'm hoping that the 90% no vote in making them think more reasonably about the pilot pay shortage.