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Horizon's had 74 when I started there...and then we went to 76 shortly after. I'm sure that your's do have alittle more legroom if they only have 74.
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Originally Posted by SurferLucas
(Post 667296)
From what I know...
Aircraft N417QX had no problems identified and all systems operating normally. Landed Runway 34 at BLI, Visual Approach backed up with RNAV 34 and calm winds/good visibiltiy. Pilot Flying had bugs still set for the takeoff out of Seattle. Pilot Monitoring had bugs set for the correct landing weight. Aircraft was flown roughly 25 kts over Vref on approach, as a result of not being reset from the take off previous. Touched down significantly past the touchdown zone. Aircraft could not be stopped with emergency breaking and full reverse. I do not know anything further at this time...that includes what the crew's trip was like. |
I agree about the fatigue thing. I typcially would set my bugs during the climb, somewhere close to level-off. During IOE, I got threatened with a point deduction from a check airman because I was going to reset my bugs in the climb...this guy was a hardass, and I just "ok" and went with it.
Seattle to Bellingham is a quick flight...typically 15/20 mins in the air. So not much time to screw around. |
Originally Posted by SurferLucas
(Post 667471)
I agree about the fatigue thing. I typcially would set my bugs during the climb, somewhere close to level-off. During IOE, I got threatened with a point deduction from a check airman because I was going to reset my bugs in the climb...this guy was a hardass, and I just "ok" and went with it.
Seattle to Bellingham is a quick flight...typically 15/20 mins in the air. So not much time to screw around. |
Originally Posted by 152SIC
(Post 666005)
I agree they were fast. I was referring to the "only 6700' long" remark.
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I honestly don't know where/why the whole 6700' stuff started...6700' is a good size runway, but if you're not careful, you can run off the end. You can runoff a 9,000 ft runway if you screw around and land outside the touchdown zone. Point is, reguardless of runway length...if you're unstable on the approach or are going outside the touchdown zone during landing, you should go around and no push it.
The Q4 is a good size airplane with some mass behind it...it doesn't fly like the Q2's that Horizon had. LavChange: I agree that Horizon's scheduling probably has alot to do with it. I think that BLI flight leaves at 11pm...if the crew had started at 12/1pm and had a nice "productivity" break in Seattle for a few hours, and it was back to back with previous day like that...yea, I can see how fatigue would be an issue. |
Kinda like how I got a point taken off on a line check, when I said: "Flight Attendants John and Jane please prepare for takeoff."
After 10,000' He said I must say: "Flight attendants please prepare for takeoff." Nomore or no less. Just like the FSM in the CRJ. I looked it up and it did say that. But in the FSM for the Q400 and 200 it does say that names may be inserted. Talk about nit picky and standardisation BS. |
Sounds like a CRJ Check Airman, those guys have a serious stick up their backsides. Atleast in the Q4/Q2 we had alot of great check airman, save for one or two...if you've flown with check airman that I talked about earlier, you know who I'm talking about!
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Carlsbad, CA. Jumpseated on SkyWest once into there, WOW!
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Sometimes you can't do anything right
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Sounds like you've sat on reserve at QX before...haha!
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Originally Posted by FL410
(Post 667555)
Kinda like how I got a point taken off on a line check, when I said: "Flight Attendants John and Jane please prepare for takeoff."
After 10,000' He said I must say: "Flight attendants please prepare for takeoff." Nomore or no less. Just like the FSM in the CRJ. I looked it up and it did say that. But in the FSM for the Q400 and 200 it does say that names may be inserted. Talk about nit picky and standardisation BS. |
Originally Posted by SurferLucas
(Post 667559)
if you've flown with check airman that I talked about earlier, you know who I'm talking about!
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Originally Posted by Chente
(Post 667571)
Carlsbad, CA. Jumpseated on SkyWest once into there, WOW!
"WOW"???? It's a piece of cake...plenty of runway there for the EMB120! |
Originally Posted by sinsilvia666
(Post 666542)
Just for kicks... Herron / New Cumberland West Virginia (7G1)
Wildest place I ever took a single engine into ! Runway 4/22 Dimensions: 2030 x 20 ft. / 619 x 6 m Surface: asphalt, in poor condition RY 04/22 HAS EXTENSIVE CRACKING, GRASSING GROWING FULL LENGTH, ASPH UNEVEN. Runway edge lights: non-standard RY 04/22 HAS LGTS ON SE SIDE ONLY. Runway edge markings: MARKINGS FADED. RUNWAY 4 RUNWAY 22 Traffic pattern: left left Markings: NSTD, in poor condition NSTD, in poor condition Obstructions: 40 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway RY 04 HAS +30 FT TREE AT THLD 48 FT LEFT. 40 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway, 90 ft. right of centerline RY 22 HAS +40 FT TREES 15 FT FM THLD 90 FT RIGHT; 4 FT FENCE LINE 0 FT FM THLD 100-125 FT LEFT. Additional Remarks - PUBLIC ROAD CROSSES CENTER OF AIRFIELD; DO NOT TAXI ON ROAD, WING WILL NOT CLEAR STOP SIGN ON RD. - FORMER RY 14/32 CLSD EXCP TAXIING & PARKING. - RY 04 & 22 ENDS NOT VISIBLE FM EACH END. TRAFFIC ON RD. CROSSING RY NOT VISIBLE FM RY 4 END. - RY 04/22 SLOPES UP FM E TO W, APRX 30 FT. - DEER ON AND INVOF ARPT. - ULTRALIGHT ACTIVITY. - 30 FT DROP OFF AT EACH RY END.
Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
(Post 666408)
Thats nothing... Try 76S, Oak Harbor, Washington..
Runway 7/25 Dimensions: 3265 x 25 ft. / 995 x 8 m Surface: asphalt, in poor condition RWY 07/25 SEVERELY CRACKED, SPALLING IN SOME AREAS. Weight bearing capacity: Single wheel: 5.0 Runway edge lights: non-standard NSTD LIRL ONLY W 2604 FT FM RY LIGHTS. RUNWAY 7 RUNWAY 25 Latitude: 48-15.092622N 48-15.090225N Longitude: 122-40.822432W 122-40.018443W Elevation: 141.0 ft. 193.3 ft. Gradient: 1.6% UP 1.7% Traffic pattern: right left Runway heading: 071 magnetic, 090 true 251 magnetic, 270 true Displaced threshold: 507 ft. no Markings: numbers only, in fair condition numbers only, in fair condition Visual slope indicator: 2-light PAPI on left (4.50 degrees glide path) 2-light PAPI on left (4.50 degrees glide path) Touchdown point: yes, no lights no, no lights Obstructions: 5 ft. fence, 235 ft. from runway, 7:1 slope to clear ROAD AT 32 FT; 8 FT BRUSH & FENCE AT 65 FT. 60 ft. tree, 700 ft. from runway, 100 ft. left of centerline, 8:1 slope to clear 5' FENCE 29' FM THR 30L & R. GPS approach to Mins is a real nail biter! GREEN RIVER GTR GREEN RIVER INTERGALACTIC SPACEPORT (48U) 4 S UTC7(6DT) SALT LAKE CITY N41 °27.48W109°29.42 7182 NOTAM FILE CPR RWY 04–22: 5800X130 (DIRT) AIRPORT REMARKS: Unattended. Uncontrolled vehicle access. Rwy soft when wet. Deep ruts and tall grass full length of rwy. 3ft berm near rwy edges entire length of rwy. Rwy 04–22 width may vary based on grading. Airport on top of mountain, land descends very steeply from rwy ends. Broken glass and fireworks debris full length. No line of sight between rwy ends. No snow removal avbl. COMMUNICATIONS: CTAF 122.9 |
Originally Posted by FL410
(Post 667555)
Kinda like how I got a point taken off on a line check, when I said: "Flight Attendants John and Jane please prepare for takeoff."
After 10,000' He said I must say: "Flight attendants please prepare for takeoff." Nomore or no less. Just like the FSM in the CRJ. I looked it up and it did say that. But in the FSM for the Q400 and 200 it does say that names may be inserted. Talk about nit picky and standardisation BS. All the check airmen I flew with were great, save for one. Yes SurferLucas, I as well have had the pleasure. The guy who one second is reading the FSM out loud to you, the next says "well... I know the book says to do this, but we do it like this on the line". |
Originally Posted by EmbraerFlyer
(Post 667800)
No-Slack still around there?
Originally Posted by The Dude Abides
(Post 667978)
It's "please prepare the cabin for departure"! That's two points, mister!
All the check airmen I flew with were great, save for one. Yes SurferLucas, I as well have had the pleasure. The guy who one second is reading the FSM out loud to you, the next says "well... I know the book says to do this, but we do it like this on the line". The one I'm talking about is J.D., he was a nice guy and all, but just alittle anal. There's a PDX Captain on the Q4 that's a really anal guy, came from the RJ...he decided that we should stop the taxi in Seattle so that he could make the FA say "Cabin Secure" instead of "We're all set, ready to go in the back"... |
Try landing on a golf course on a mountain...then we can talk :D
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FAA Identifier: 55H
Elevation: 5500 ft. / 1676.4 m (surveyed) From city: 1 mile NW of ATLANTA, ID Runway 16/34 Dimensions: 2460 x 75 ft. / 750 x 23 mSurface: turf/dirt, in good condition RECOMMENDED FOR USE BY MOUNTAIN PROFICIENT PILOTS USING HIGH PERFORMANCE AIRCRAFT. ARPT IS LOCATED IN MOUNTAINOUS AREA; HIGH TIMBERED RIDGES LIMIT MANEUVERING AREA. LAND RY 34, DEPART RY 16. APPROACH UP BOISE RIVER MAKING RIGHT CIRCLING PATTERN OVER VALLEY TO CHECK TRAFFIC AT GREENE ARPT. DEPART WITH A RIGHT TURNOUT DOWN BOISE RIVER. ANNOUNCE INTENTIONS ON 122.9. NO GO-AROUND DUE TO RISING TERRAIN AND TREES. GROUND VEHICLE TRAFFIC HAS ACCESS TO RY FAA Identifier: ID67 Elevation: 4200 ft. / 1280 m (estimated) From city: 30 miles SW of CHALLIS, ID Runway 13/31 Dimensions: 1100 x 75 ft. / 335 x 23 mSurface: turf FAA Identifier: U72 Elevation: 5500 ft. / 1676 m (estimated) From city: 26 miles NW of CHALLIS, ID Runway 4/22 Dimensions: 2500 x 75 ft. / 762 x 23 mSurface: turf/dirt, in fair condition RECOMMENDED FOR EXPERINCED MOUNTAIN PILOTS ONLY.TREES AND HIGH TRRN ON BOTH ENDS OF RWY 04/22, REQUIRES A STEEP APCH. NO WINTER MAINTENANCE RY 04/22 NUMEROUS ADDITIONAL OBSTNS ON APCH TO BOTH RY ENDS |
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