Horizon?
 

Will Horizon ever recall or hire again... Just havent heard alot about it. Just wish I could be based where I am from. The Pacific Northwest

Don't we all!

No, never again will they hire. Those poor souls will be working there until they're 65, even the FOs.

(j/k)

Better chance of getting on with SkyWest, EMB PDX base... Maybe in late 2010...????

84 on furlough. They were talking about more furloughs. There is a little growth this summer. As of right now don't leave a job for QX. I agree with amcnd about SkyWest.

amcnd, what is this about skywest and Emb slots in PDX in 2010? If it comes to pass I hope a dirty freight dawg can get a bone:) I am keeping my fingers crossed that your crystal ball is better than mine. The Pacific Northwest is calling me home as well!

Your best bet to get back flying in PNW is Ameriflight. Even now they're not hiring. Its going to be a long wait. :(

Ya I already tried AMF once...No dice :( I'll try again though:) I would just be more happy to go to Skywest or Horizon, career progression and all, oh and West bases. I just don't see where there is any growth for Horizon without changing their whole core structure. Serving the same communities with 70 seat turboprops vs. the 30-50 seat turboprops, with less frequency ain't gonna bring people off the street sadly. Even Skywest has an uncertain future with United circling the drain and no one knowing what is going to transpire with Delta and its feed. Heck people have even talked about maybe Mesaba getting more flying in SLC. All is rumor but if that came to pass I would think more strongly about seeing if Mesaba would have an opening for a guy like myself. Hopefully no more furloughs at Horizon and maybe just maybe a couple of you guys get back to work soon, I'm praying for ya!

Competirion
 

It seems these days that the biggest competition for Horizon Air are the shuttle buses that are now starting to drive passengers into SEATAC from the smaller towns.

Why pay a few hundred dollars for Horizon Air to fly you into Seatac when you can get the same travel for forty dollars from a shuttle bus service? Every bus they add to the line is another empty Dash 8. According to the news they are adding a lot of buses.

Skyhigh

Ya but what about those buses driving over the pass in the winter? Might be something to save a little flying out of YKM, PSC, and a couple others on the east side of the Cascades?? Could those destinations just be seasonal....man I hope not!

Man you would have to PAY ME to ride a bus from Pasco to Seatac, a couple hundred bucks for a ticket ain't that bad.

BTW isn't PDX senior at SKW?

When you say bus service, do you mean PC-12? :D

Year round
 

I just saw a news story how they are exploding in popularity and adding even more big buses to the schedule out of Yakima.

I have used them and it is a good deal. They start in YKM and stop in ELN along the way. $40 from YKM to SEA. The leave four or five times a day.

Similar companies also are bringing pax into SEATAC from the north and south. It is catching on system wide. To me it is a major threat to Horizon Air and probably to regionals nationwide.

Why pay hundreds more to get to SEATAC when a nice bus can take you from your home town and get you there an hour or two later?

Skyhigh

What do you mean hundreds more? It's $59 to go from Yakima to Sea-Tac a couple weeks from now. I don't know about you but for $19 more than the bus service i would rather take Horizon.

Bus service
 

Whenever I have tried to book a flight on Horizon it was around $300 or more. Sometimes you can add a horizon air flight to an already overpriced Alaska fare but I have not commonly seen $69.

If $69 fares were commonly the case then why are the buss services expanding so rapidly?

Skyhigh

I looked it up.
 

Update:

I have looked up some fares a few weeks from now and found $118. Not bad.

Skyhigh

Correction
 

Correction:

If I understand the web site correctly it is as much as $118 each way plus hidden airport fees and taxes. As much as $257. There are also baggage fees that could add another $15 to $100. An extra hour or two in a bus would be worth that.

Skyhigh

So you condone this kind of travel??? You should probably change your screen name to Buslow!! :mad:

I don't know how many times you have drove through the pass in the winter but it can turn into a 10 hour ordeal with traffic backed up for forty miles. I'd just assume pay the money so I'm not late for my flight to Narita. If I miss my flight there goes all my savings, plus more, on a hotel.

So in short, expect Horizon to be hiring street captains into the Prevost X3-45 by mid summer.

Agreed. Pass travel in the winter borders on suicide. re: pdx being senior... good luck getting in. you'll be FAT based the rest of your career if you're on the emb. People have transitioned from FO jet to FO emb just to get pdx.

That looks like a sweeter ride than a CRJ700. Not bad.

Weather
 

Horizon cancels flights too.

Skyhigh

Condone?
 

All I am saying is that people in outlying towns have been looking for an alternative and now they have one. Jump on a bus and get there for less.

Skyhigh

Nice ride
 

If they were smart they would add a few of those to the lineup. :)

Skyhigh

...no, that would be expansion, something that is not in the Air Group's vocabulary...

Shoot your resume over again and give a phone call. PM me if ya need more info. They're still accepting and reviewing resumes at AMF.

Why you asking me this question? You said that the price of Horizon is couple hundred more and i just picked a random date to look up the ticket and found the 6:00am flight to be $59. This is just to show you that it's not hundreds more. If you think the bus service is better, take the bus.... Seems to me you're trying to convince everyone on here how much better the bus service is.

My point
 

My point is that the bus is becoming a strong alternative. It is a competitor that Horizon will have a difficult time defending against especially if they are several hundred dollars more.

When I went into the computer system I saw the 6:00AM $59 fare however it was only for one way and if did not include taxes or bag fees.

A regular price for a full service ticket is $118 each way plus taxes, fees and baggage would come in at around $257 to $300. A lot more than the bus.

Skyhigh

Airlines will always favor over the bus. Yeah, in the tough economic times some people do not have $200 to fly so they spend 2-3 hours driving through the windy snoqualmie pass with the chance of long traffic delays or even pass closures. I would rather get on a Q400, be given a drink of my choice, and watch as the gorgeous cascades pass below me. Not to mention seeing Mount Rainier. I sure do miss the North West and the west coast...:( now you got me depressed! ;) Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

SAN was senior to PDX....
until they closed it!

Bus or car is strong competition, as are other airlines, there is no plan for recalls or hiring, upgrade is around 10 years ( yes…6 years sure sounded bad, but +10 sure got a special ring to it ; doesn’t it), …the list goes on, indefinitely. The PNW sure is a nice place, but so are other companies to work for. Take a close look what you are wishing for, because this high paying, family oriented place might have some flaws that are not visible from the outside. Good luck though…we will welcome you when you made your choice, but don’t ever say “you were not told otherwise”.

Best career move i've ever made was to leave Horizon

Likewise. While I didn't know it at the time I feel lucky now to have 'only' been in the right seat there for six years before upgrading on a turboprop. It's a good company, but if you're not attached to the PNW and your career goal is to work at a major I would steer well clear.

It's not obvious that SkyHigh is upset about his decision to leave QX at all.... Whiny McWhinerton!

Not sure what you are talking about??

How hard is it to land a AMF job in BFI on a 1900 or 99?

You mean going directly to BFI on the 1900 or 99 or upgrading? Cause I hear BFi is pretty senior and you would probably have to start on a piston first.

Bfi is one of the most senior bases for AMF. You wouldn't even be able to get in the piston there. The most junior pilot is going on 3 years at bfi. Alot of pilots down in PDX would/have standing bids to move up to BFI if a spot comes up.

My Freind
 

Had I known that Horizon Air was the best that I could hope for then I would have quit that moment. Nine leg days. Gone two thirds of the time. Self funded retirement on mailman wages. Not for me. Never was.

I still miss flying, but my dream was for a different life. Leaving Horizon was the best thing I did.

Skyhigh