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FL410 06-11-2010 09:13 AM

Horizon Contract News
 
After four and a half years of effort, your Negotiating Committee and Horizon Air management negotiators, with the assistance of the National Mediation Board, came to an agreement in principle on all open items. The next task is to write the requisite language to finalize a tentative agreement. This will take several weeks of intensive work by both parties to produce the final document. Once the tentative agreement is finished, it will be sent your home and made available online. About one week later, road shows will commence where we will answer any questions about the agreement. We encourage everyone to plan on attending at least one of the road shows.


Let's hope that it is worth voting on. There better be improvements to reserve (switching from AM to PM), scheduling, QOL, pay (block or better), scope, job security, ect.....

I have my fingers crossed. Anyone want to bet if 401K goes from 10% to 6%?

Jetspeed 06-11-2010 09:32 AM

I guarantee it goes from 10% to 6%...

Sioux115 06-11-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Jetspeed (Post 824818)
I guarantee it goes from 10% to 6%...

Then that guarantees a no vote from me!

Splanky 06-11-2010 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by FL410 (Post 824812)
agreement in principle on all open items

It still has to go by Jeff's desk. Not holding my breath he will actually go by what his negotiators have agreed to, hasn't before.

Too bad that we have to negotiate with people from management side that haven't actually been given the authority to negotiate.

If it gets to us for a vote I will comb through it for a while and will then pick our union representative's brains during the roadshow.

FL410 06-11-2010 02:48 PM

I hope they have something in there about minimum staffing per a/c.

Splanky 06-11-2010 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by FL410 (Post 824966)
I hope they have something in there about minimum staffing per a/c.

Strongly agree!!!! It would be nice to be able to get time off again.

LavChange 06-12-2010 07:09 AM

If 401k goes to 6%, I better get something worthwhile in return, ie more days off, etc. Also, what is in the cba about farming out the jet flying because that's exactly what management wants to do. Management may as well just give in to a new agreement, and then outsource all of our flying. Management hates you.

FL410 06-12-2010 07:54 AM

My bet on what the TA will read (if it gets there):

1. There will be a pay cut. That is clear.
2. Better schedules and flexability in the schedules.
3. 401K change
4. min guarantee change. Lower.
5. Block or better
6. minimum staffing per a/c and a definition of adequete staffing.
7. they will still be able to swap form AM-PM but we will get an extra hour of credit.
8. Profering for open trips for reserves.
9. Long call out reserve 12 hr.
10. part time lines permenant

I hope for but won't happen:
1. not allowing people to pick up open/premium with people on furlough. People are so greeedy.

There is a chance of:
1. pay reates for upto 90-100 seaters (they belong at a major)
2. scope allowing another airline to do our jet flying. (I know everyone that flys for someone else is hoping for that)
3. pay guarantee ( for cancelled trips)

The probability:
1. JP will say F this we are back to the table.

FL410 06-12-2010 07:57 AM

Lav,
Mgmt loves us. Remember the pizza and movie for last christmas. Expect 6-8 weeks for delivery. Aren't they nice. This year I bet we get the expired egg salad sandwichs in the crew meal machines.

flyinpigg 06-12-2010 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Splanky (Post 824911)
It still has to go by Jeff's desk. Not holding my breath he will actually go by what his negotiators have agreed to, hasn't before.

Too bad that we have to negotiate with people from management side that haven't actually been given the authority to negotiate.

If it gets to us for a vote I will comb through it for a while and will then pick our union representative's brains during the roadshow.


This agreement in principle was done in mediation, Jeffy had to agree to it before any announcement would or could be made. It is now up to the pilot group to give it the up or down vote.


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