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snackysmores 03-28-2017 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by cactusflyer (Post 2330722)
We should start hiring into the jet at some point in the next month or so, but I have no clue beyond that.

Reserve time on the Q depends completely on what base you're in, and how many new pilots we're failing to attract. At some of the smaller bases (GEG, BOI, MFR), you can probably get a line within a couple of months, but PDX and SEA can be somewhere past 12 months of reserve.

Upgrade times had been just under the three year mark on the Q (again, for the junior bases), but we've recently parked two airplanes and cancelled some upgrade classes, so I'm not completely sure where the upgrade time sits right now.

I believe the jet new hire classes are spoken for, at least for the rest of the year but I could be wrong. I can't see us taking any more deliveries after the 3rd jet due to Q400 staffing.

As much as I hate to say it, Skywest could very likely get the remaining 10. From a management perspective, it's probably cheaper to give away E175s than to park Q400s and displace crews into the jet costing thousands in new type ratings.

I bet talks are underway now to make that happen. Management will naturally blame the pilots, and release some statement that this will 'position us for growth' in the future.

Griever 03-28-2017 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2331493)
I believe the jet new hire classes are spoken for, at least for the rest of the year but I could be wrong. I can't see us taking any more deliveries after the 3rd jet due to Q400 staffing.

As much as I hate to say it, Skywest could very likely get the remaining 10. From a management perspective, it's probably cheaper to give away E175s than to park Q400s and displace crews into the jet costing thousands in new type ratings.

I bet talks are underway now to make that happen. Management will naturally blame the pilots, and release some statement that this will 'position us for growth' in the future.

I'm certain it was no shortsighted decision that the E175s will be sea based. Just in case QX can't staff them, there's two other CPAs there that can.

Niobe 03-29-2017 05:42 AM

Confirmed
 

Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2331493)
I believe the jet new hire classes are spoken for, at least for the rest of the year but I could be wrong. I can't see us taking any more deliveries after the 3rd jet due to Q400 staffing.

As much as I hate to say it, Skywest could very likely get the remaining 10. From a management perspective, it's probably cheaper to give away E175s than to park Q400s and displace crews into the jet costing thousands in new type ratings.

I bet talks are underway now to make that happen. Management will naturally blame the pilots, and release some statement that this will 'position us for growth' in the future.

Confirmed, skywest is negotiating with Alaska to take 10 of Horizon's next deliveries leaving Horizon with only 3 jets until at least 2018 at the earliest. Even with the bonuses first officers are now leaving faster than they can be trained (3 left for Skywest in the last 2 weeks). Cancelled upgrade classes, constant junior manning into days off, and still a shrinking pilot list= more parked airplanes, stagnant seniority list and ultimate failure as a company, meanwhile Skywest countinous to expand into new Alaska markets.

snackysmores 03-29-2017 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Niobe (Post 2331655)
Confirmed, skywest is negotiating with Alaska to take 10 of Horizon's next deliveries leaving Horizon with only 3 jets until at least 2018 at the earliest.

Source? I thought you went to spirit

word302 03-29-2017 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2331780)
Source? I thought you went to spirit

Heard it from an FA that's dating a checkairman's cousin.

WSPLT 03-29-2017 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2331785)
Heard it from an FA that's dating a checkairman's cousin.

Sounds totally legit then...

Herc09 03-29-2017 10:31 AM

Sounds like a line from spaceballs.

Jonneaux 03-29-2017 11:51 AM


Confirmed, skywest is negotiating with Alaska to take 10 of Horizon's next deliveries leaving Horizon with only 3 jets until at least 2018 at the earliest.
Confirmed by who? I have heard nothing at all about more 175s for Alaska, but when things go quiet is usually when something is in the works.

Would this not be a death blow to Horizon?

snackysmores 03-29-2017 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Jonneaux (Post 2331949)
Confirmed by who? I have heard nothing at all about more 175s for Alaska, but when things go quiet is usually when something is in the works.

Would this not be a death blow to Horizon?

Well, we're parking 15 Q400s next year so without anything to replace them... downgrades and furloughs again for like the 10th time at this airline

Jonneaux 03-29-2017 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2332078)
Well, we're parking 15 Q400s next year so without anything to replace them... downgrades and furloughs again for like the 10th time at this airline

I haven't heard that before. Is that something new or are do you jest?


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