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rvr1800 07-18-2017 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by cmesoar (Post 2396064)
Hopefully you are right but I would not hold my breath. The government does nothing fast...

Yeah true. I should've put hopefully not probably.

RiddleEagle18 07-19-2017 07:03 PM

And the company backs out of planned negotiation dates........


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727_Driver 07-19-2017 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 2397104)
And the company backs out of planned negotiation dates........


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Did you expect anything less after a low ball offer? I didn't think they would go OMG you filed for mediation here's the checkbook. I hope JB gets a good mediator that will call BS when he/she see's it...

P-3Bubba 07-20-2017 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by 727_Driver (Post 2397200)
Did you expect anything less after a low ball offer? I didn't think they would go OMG you filed for mediation here's the checkbook. I hope JB gets a good mediator that will call BS when he/she see's it...

The company has an excellent track record with federal judges and arbitration that goes in THEIR favor.

-Bubs

PasserOGas 07-20-2017 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 2397633)
The company has an excellent track record with federal judges and arbitration that goes in THEIR favor.

-Bubs

At the end of the day we don't have to vote yes for anything we don't like.

hyperboy 07-20-2017 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 2397633)
The company has an excellent track record with federal judges and arbitration that goes in THEIR favor.

-Bubs

Arbitration is much different than mediation and is not binding.

RiddleEagle18 07-20-2017 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2397682)
Arbitration is much different than mediation and is not binding.



Switch those around and you are correct.

Mediation non binding
Arbitration binding.

There will be NO arbitration.


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embraerjetpilot 07-21-2017 04:12 AM

With this administration, mediation pretty much will be indefinite.


Think it doesn't matter? Your full of it

kingair35 07-21-2017 11:54 AM

I read that the average time in mediation is 29 months, and that is outside of the direct negotiations that have already taken place.

Seems like this whole process has been extremely well played on the company's part. I mean, over two years of negotiations have netted pretty much cost neutral TA's. It comes as no surprise that once the big money discussions start, things melt down quickly and now we are in mediation that is non-binding.

In my opinion, we were in a labor dispute the day we filed for section 6 negotiations. I find it interesting that our union is still not considering us in a full blown labor dispute and is waiting till the "end of the year" to consider it as such.

Regardless, this process is going to take a very very long time to settle. Anyone under the impression that JetBlue management is "different", and will go to any cost to protect its "brand" are seriously mistaken.

Suit up, show up, fly SOP.

Bozo the pilot 07-21-2017 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by kingair35 (Post 2398049)
I read that the average time in mediation is 29 months, and that is outside of the direct negotiations that have already taken place.

Seems like this whole process has been extremely well played on the company's part. I mean, over two years of negotiations have netted pretty much cost neutral TA's. It comes as no surprise that once the big money discussions start, things melt down quickly and now we are in mediation that is non-binding.

In my opinion, we were in a labor dispute the day we filed for section 6 negotiations. I find it interesting that our union is still not considering us in a full blown labor dispute and is waiting till the "end of the year" to consider it as such.

Regardless, this process is going to take a very very long time to settle. Anyone under the impression that JetBlue management is "different", and will go to any cost to protect its "brand" are seriously mistaken.

Suit up, show up, fly SOP.

Suit up, show up and leave this airline while you have some career left. By the time youre holding a line at a real airline, B6 may have a CBA that's still well behind the legacies.


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