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Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 2453502)

Figured it out. Thanks for all the input! Captsurf is spot on. I flew in the redeye period but was just under the 2hr mark, so unfortunately it looks like it's a legal assignment.

never fly fatigued. especially if your circadian rhythm was disrupted by delays.

Legal isn't always safe.

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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2453522)

never fly fatigued. especially if your circadian rhythm was disrupted by delays.

Legal isn't always safe.

^^^^^what he said

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Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 2453502)

Figured it out. Thanks for all the input! Captsurf is spot on. I flew in the redeye period but was just under the 2hr mark, so unfortunately it looks like it's a legal assignment.

So you are back on at 1300 on Day 3/3 until when? 2300? Would you extend if requested?

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Originally Posted by WhistlePig (Post 2453527)

So you are back on at 1300 on Day 3/3 until when? 2300? Would you extend if requested?

*#%! no. No waivers no favors

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Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 2453502)

Figured it out. Thanks for all the input! Captsurf is spot on. I flew in the redeye period but was just under the 2hr mark, so unfortunately it looks like it's a legal assignment.

Interesting dilemma. A question for you AYL, when you were assigned the trip does the pairing indicate "3-day" on it? You say you were on a 3-day block so I assume it was an official 3-day, but I have seen trips given to me that finished at 0100 listed as a 2-day and a 3-day.

Alongside unicorns, try finding anywhere it lists that 0100 is actually the day before and doesn't count for the next day. It's right next to where the company describes AM / PM and how they assign it.

Good luck

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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2453522)

never fly fatigued. especially if your circadian rhythm was disrupted by delays.

Legal isn't always safe.

Been down this road before with previous employers. I've made the mistake of saying "I'll tough it out" earlier in my career, it's not worth it, especially when the delays start adding up and weather is in the mix.

Can honestly say I didn't feel fit for duty at all which is why I posed the question. They ended up calling me just a few min prior to release time. I fatigued it.

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Originally Posted by WhistlePig (Post 2453527)

So you are back on at 1300 on Day 3/3 until when? 2300? Would you extend if requested?

Nope. I don't extend. We have reserves for a reason.

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Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2453629)

It does indicate 3 day, and scheduling even said 3 day pairing when they notified me.

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Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 2454183)

i had the exact same situation happen when i was jfk 320 reserve. the captain told me he thought if we got done after 0200, i was off the hook, so we got done at 0203. then crew support spent about 40 minutes on the phone explaining to me that it is 0300 that is the cutoff, like you learned.

it is a weird situation that almost never comes up, it seems, but it should be taught so we know it ahead of time. and of course it should be (and i'm sure it will be) covered in the cba.