What's the plan?
11-30-2017, 07:34 AM
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What's the plan?
I am trying to move on to bigger and better airlines, but as we all know it too well things don't always go as planned. I still have vested interest in JetBlue until I get lucky enough to get picked up by a real Major. I was counting on growth to maintain positive seniority movement but that hardly seems to be case.
During my new-hire orientation, the company was full of ideas and plans for the future. Most of people in my class have been around long enough to know that it was mostly "feel good fluff" but nevertheless, we still were somewhat optimistic on the outlook. However, in the last year or so the management has made no effort communicate any solid plans for the future of JetBlue. Is it because they don't have any?
During my new-hire orientation, the company was full of ideas and plans for the future. Most of people in my class have been around long enough to know that it was mostly "feel good fluff" but nevertheless, we still were somewhat optimistic on the outlook. However, in the last year or so the management has made no effort communicate any solid plans for the future of JetBlue. Is it because they don't have any?
11-30-2017, 07:39 AM
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They are being either:
A) Super tight lipped.
or
B) Have no plans.
Most of us on the line lean towards B. It seems almost when the Virgin America deal fell through and the Long Beach customs fell through... they had no backup plans. They keep kicking the can down the road with everything (winglets, cabin refresh, E190 decision, LR/330's, Europe, Midwest Expansion, etc etc)
But hey, we announced EWR-SDQ yesterday!
A) Super tight lipped.
or
B) Have no plans.
Most of us on the line lean towards B. It seems almost when the Virgin America deal fell through and the Long Beach customs fell through... they had no backup plans. They keep kicking the can down the road with everything (winglets, cabin refresh, E190 decision, LR/330's, Europe, Midwest Expansion, etc etc)
But hey, we announced EWR-SDQ yesterday!
11-30-2017, 08:27 AM
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It is disheartening. I drank the Kool-aid at ViB and training but reality quickly set in when I hit the line. Things aren’t as rosy as we were led to believe. Less than a year after arriving growth has slowed. Hiring and upgrades have slowed. Management is obviously dragging its feet on our CBA... I came here as a destination airline as my friends that helped get me here were happy. Now all are fed up and completely out of goodwill. Everyone is shopping elsewhere. We are told attrition has been lower than expected (mostly 1-5 year prior mil guys going to the big 3). Management solves this problem by hiring less in that demographic and more in others that aren’t as marketable or likely to leave for the bigs (NE guys, older pilots, less military). Until we get a great CBA this will never be a destination airline.
11-30-2017, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
I am trying to move on to bigger and better airlines, but as we all know it too well things don't always go as planned. I still have vested interest in JetBlue until I get lucky enough to get picked up by a real Major. I was counting on growth to maintain positive seniority movement but that hardly seems to be case.
During my new-hire orientation, the company was full of ideas and plans for the future. Most of people in my class have been around long enough to know that it was mostly "feel good fluff" but nevertheless, we still were somewhat optimistic on the outlook. However, in the last year or so the management has made no effort communicate any solid plans for the future of JetBlue. Is it because they don't have any?
During my new-hire orientation, the company was full of ideas and plans for the future. Most of people in my class have been around long enough to know that it was mostly "feel good fluff" but nevertheless, we still were somewhat optimistic on the outlook. However, in the last year or so the management has made no effort communicate any solid plans for the future of JetBlue. Is it because they don't have any?
I think the current administration is just much more quiet about their plans than the previous. But that doesn’t mean that plans aren’t in the works. They have formally announced plans to go across the Atlantic in stockholder meetings. I’m betting that’s the most active plan. They also announced the fleet review, and extended it to 1st quarter 2018. I’m betting that extension has something to do with the Airbus/C-Series deal, but who knows.
What sort of notifications are you looking for? Weekly briefs on our plans that give away competitive advantage?
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11-30-2017, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Combatcraig
It is disheartening. I drank the Kool-aid at ViB and training but reality quickly set in when I hit the line. Things aren’t as rosy as we were led to believe. Less than a year after arriving growth has slowed. Hiring and upgrades have slowed. Management is obviously dragging its feet on our CBA... I came here as a destination airline as my friends that helped get me here were happy. Now all are fed up and completely out of goodwill. Everyone is shopping elsewhere. We are told attrition has been lower than expected (mostly 1-5 year prior mil guys going to the big 3). Management solves this problem by hiring less in that demographic and more in others that aren’t as marketable or likely to leave for the bigs (NE guys, older pilots, less military). Until we get a great CBA this will never be a destination airline.
Good luck man
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