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Iregretnothing 01-04-2018 08:44 AM

Better Than a Regional??
 
I haven't found many positive comments on this thread so it is hard to form an opinion. Maybe someone can help me out? Is it worth leaving an AA WO regional to fly for JetBlue? The pay is better and I am like 8 years from the flow if I can do math correctly. I understand that JetBlue pilots should get paid more but should I even bother getting my foot in the door or just stay where I am at? JetBlue seems better than Frontier or Alaskan.

hilltopflyer 01-04-2018 08:58 AM

Ehhhh close, if we get a contract worth anything soon I'd say come on but it's up to management how far they let that go with picketing etc. yes it's better than frontier or spirit.

Armybeatnavy 01-04-2018 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Iregretnothing (Post 2495270)
I haven't found many positive comments on this thread so it is hard to form an opinion. Maybe someone can help me out? Is it worth leaving an AA WO regional to fly for JetBlue? The pay is better and I am like 8 years from the flow if I can do math correctly. I understand that JetBlue pilots should get paid more but should I even bother getting my foot in the door or just stay where I am at? JetBlue seems better than Frontier or Alaskan.

I am in the same boat man. Roughly 5 years till I flow. I am wondering the same thing. I have a feeling, pay negotiations for both JetBlue and the wholly owned are going to be stalled for a while.



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Rascal 01-04-2018 10:43 AM

I left my Regional to JetBlue in hopes of having a better "wait station" while I get called by a real Major. After 2 years of being here most of my friends that chose to stay behind are at United now and I am still here with $50,000 of income loss over the past 2 years, not to mention increased healthcare cost on top of it. Starting on my 3rd year pay now and my paycheck is higher than it was at the Regional but I have less days off and far worse of a drive to work. Would I do this again if I had a chance to go back? Probably not...

Bluedriver 01-04-2018 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Rascal (Post 2495407)
I left my Regional to JetBlue in hopes of having a better "wait station" while I get called by a real Major. After 2 years of being here most of my friends that chose to stay behind are at United now and I am still here with $50,000 of income loss over the past 2 years, not to mention increased healthcare cost on top of it. Starting on my 3rd year pay now and my paycheck is higher than it was at the Regional but I have less days off and far worse of a drive to work. Would I do this again if I had a chance to go back? Probably not...

Hearing this more and more often these days.

hyperboy 01-04-2018 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2495424)
Hearing this more and more often these days.

You cannot compare JetBlue to any regional period. Not even close. No argument at all. Be relevant. Go to a union meeting or a rally. We are not compared to regional cause we are not one. Get off the computer, join a committee and be part of the solution. Our contract will be like our peer set.

Bluedriver 01-04-2018 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2495471)
You cannot compare JetBlue to any regional period. Not even close. No argument at all. Be relevant. Go to a union meeting or a rally. We are not compared to regional cause we are not one. Get off the computer, join a committee and be part of the solution. Our contract will be like our peer set.

Why are you quoting me? It was Rascals personal feelings and I said I hear others tell me the same thing...

If I'm not supposed to tell you guys to stop spreading blue fairy dust don't tell me I can't voice my observations.

jtrain609 01-04-2018 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Iregretnothing (Post 2495270)
I haven't found many positive comments on this thread so it is hard to form an opinion. Maybe someone can help me out? Is it worth leaving an AA WO regional to fly for JetBlue? The pay is better and I am like 8 years from the flow if I can do math correctly. I understand that JetBlue pilots should get paid more but should I even bother getting my foot in the door or just stay where I am at? JetBlue seems better than Frontier or Alaskan.

Anyone on here who thinks JetBlue is comparable to a regional hasn't been at a regional for a decade, and can't remember what it was like.

The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.

Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.

To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.

I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.

Bluedriver 01-04-2018 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by jtrain609 (Post 2495484)
Anyone on here who thinks JetBlue is comparable to a regional hasn't been at a regional for a decade, and can't remember what it was like.

The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.

Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.

To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.

I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.

No one is saying a regional is better. False argument. We are saying this is a bottom tear major and they would be better off pursuing a career at one of the top companies in this industry.

Can you tell us all how a new hire today is likely to be much better off at JB vs DL, UAL, AA, UPS or FDX? Honest question?

Bozo the pilot 01-04-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by jtrain609 (Post 2495484)
Anyone on here who thinks JetBlue is comparable to a regional hasn't been at a regional for a decade, and can't remember what it was like.

The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.

Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.

To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.

I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.

Your last paragraph is based in a falsehood. Some of us are happy in our lives but ****ed at this company. Dont confuse online critique for a reflection of un-happiness. For many its a hobby---so get over it ya arrogant blueboy. :D
For the record, jetblue is 3/4 of a major- would you disagree Traindept?


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