Better Than a Regional??
01-04-2018, 08:44 AM
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Better Than a Regional??
I haven't found many positive comments on this thread so it is hard to form an opinion. Maybe someone can help me out? Is it worth leaving an AA WO regional to fly for JetBlue? The pay is better and I am like 8 years from the flow if I can do math correctly. I understand that JetBlue pilots should get paid more but should I even bother getting my foot in the door or just stay where I am at? JetBlue seems better than Frontier or Alaskan.
01-04-2018, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Iregretnothing
I haven't found many positive comments on this thread so it is hard to form an opinion. Maybe someone can help me out? Is it worth leaving an AA WO regional to fly for JetBlue? The pay is better and I am like 8 years from the flow if I can do math correctly. I understand that JetBlue pilots should get paid more but should I even bother getting my foot in the door or just stay where I am at? JetBlue seems better than Frontier or Alaskan.
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01-04-2018, 10:43 AM
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I left my Regional to JetBlue in hopes of having a better "wait station" while I get called by a real Major. After 2 years of being here most of my friends that chose to stay behind are at United now and I am still here with $50,000 of income loss over the past 2 years, not to mention increased healthcare cost on top of it. Starting on my 3rd year pay now and my paycheck is higher than it was at the Regional but I have less days off and far worse of a drive to work. Would I do this again if I had a chance to go back? Probably not...
01-04-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
I left my Regional to JetBlue in hopes of having a better "wait station" while I get called by a real Major. After 2 years of being here most of my friends that chose to stay behind are at United now and I am still here with $50,000 of income loss over the past 2 years, not to mention increased healthcare cost on top of it. Starting on my 3rd year pay now and my paycheck is higher than it was at the Regional but I have less days off and far worse of a drive to work. Would I do this again if I had a chance to go back? Probably not...
01-04-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Hearing this more and more often these days.
01-04-2018, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
You cannot compare JetBlue to any regional period. Not even close. No argument at all. Be relevant. Go to a union meeting or a rally. We are not compared to regional cause we are not one. Get off the computer, join a committee and be part of the solution. Our contract will be like our peer set.
If I'm not supposed to tell you guys to stop spreading blue fairy dust don't tell me I can't voice my observations.
01-04-2018, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Iregretnothing
I haven't found many positive comments on this thread so it is hard to form an opinion. Maybe someone can help me out? Is it worth leaving an AA WO regional to fly for JetBlue? The pay is better and I am like 8 years from the flow if I can do math correctly. I understand that JetBlue pilots should get paid more but should I even bother getting my foot in the door or just stay where I am at? JetBlue seems better than Frontier or Alaskan.
The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.
Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.
To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.
I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.
01-04-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Anyone on here who thinks JetBlue is comparable to a regional hasn't been at a regional for a decade, and can't remember what it was like.
The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.
Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.
To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.
I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.
The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.
Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.
To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.
I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.
Can you tell us all how a new hire today is likely to be much better off at JB vs DL, UAL, AA, UPS or FDX? Honest question?
01-04-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Anyone on here who thinks JetBlue is comparable to a regional hasn't been at a regional for a decade, and can't remember what it was like.
The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.
Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.
To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.
I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.
The operation isn't perfect, but it runs. The pay isn't as high as it should be, but you'll be ahead after you're off first year pay.
Most importantly there's a level of stability here that doesn't exist at regionals. In the decade I spent at the regionals, I saw a furlough, 8 base closures, the wholesale destruction of my first regional (XJT), and the destruction of any kind of safety culture at my second.
To compare the two is to completely misunderstand what life is like at a regional these days.
I'm not saying this place is perfect, I'm saying it can't be compared against a regional. The people who do are so bitter and angry about life that they'd complain about having to work "every f-ing Wednesday" at Delta and then launch off about how much their taxed on their bonus checks; put simply, the guys who inhabit this place would be angry no matter what.
For the record, jetblue is 3/4 of a major- would you disagree Traindept?
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