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queue 03-24-2018 10:12 PM

Are you happy with table scraps?

Are you happy just to have a job?

Do you have something on your record that keeps you from getting employed somewhere else?

Are you so beat down that you will learn to love your servitude?

Then you may just be BJ material.

This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

IQuitEagle 03-24-2018 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by slimothy (Post 2558238)
Where did you go after 7 years? I left for SWA after only 2 years.

FedEx. Love it! (And it’s literally only a 1-year pay cut from my CA position at JB, what does that say about JB compensation?) Congrats on Southwest!

slimothy 03-24-2018 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by IQuitEagle (Post 2558243)
FedEx. Love it! (And it’s literally only a 1-year pay cut from my CA position at JB, what does that say about JB compensation?) Congrats on Southwest!

I’m not going to suffer a pay cut at all going to SWA. FDX is the only app I’ll be updating from now on. If I never get that call, I’ll still retire a happy man. Congrats to you!

Rascal 03-25-2018 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by slimothy (Post 2558255)
I’m not going to suffer a pay cut at all going to SWA. FDX is the only app I’ll be updating from now on. If I never get that call, I’ll still retire a happy man. Congrats to you!

Slimothy, I think that we were in the same class at JetBlue. I am trying my hardest to leave as well. Goodluck at Southwest!

slimothy 03-25-2018 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Rascal (Post 2558397)
Slimothy, I think that we were in the same class at JetBlue. I am trying my hardest to leave as well. Goodluck at Southwest!

Thanks! Sent you a PM

HighFlight 03-25-2018 07:01 PM

Could anyone who lives on the West coast of FL and commutes to JFK please PM me? Sarasota, Punta Gorda, Tampa, Ft. Myers. Particularly Ft. Myers.

Thanks in advance.

Bozo the pilot 03-26-2018 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 2558239)
Are you happy with table scraps?

Are you happy just to have a job?

Do you have something on your record that keeps you from getting employed somewhere else?

Are you so beat down that you will learn to love your servitude?

Then you may just be BJ material.

This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

This^^ if you get the call here, grab the type and keep your resumes up to date. Then leave as SOON AS YOU CAN.
This place does not take care about their work groups and especially hate the pilot group. We are too far away from a CBA for me to endorse this job.
Even the juicers are fed up.:cool:

coopervane 03-27-2018 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2559384)
This^^ if you get the call here, grab the type and keep your resumes up to date. Then leave as SOON AS YOU CAN.
This place does not take care about their work groups and especially hate the pilot group. We are too far away from a CBA for me to endorse this job.
Even the juicers are fed up.:cool:

These are not the words of one disgruntled pilot. I would bet 80-90% of this group would leave tomorrow. Unless they have a business.

“If it’s so bad....why don’t you leave?” Believe me....I’m trying. Most of us FO's are trying.

Look....I get it. I worked for a failing regional and understand why someone needs a job......any job. But understand that you will be distracted (during our pathetic minimalist training) and will lose focus on the prize. Getting to a well paying successful major with good prospects for the future. THAT is your goal.

Why would anyone come here?. There were NO POSTS warning me when I applied here. NONE WHATSOEVER ��. If I saw them I would give serious thought to wasting ANY time at this place.

pilotpayne 03-27-2018 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by coopervane (Post 2560154)
These are not the words of one disgruntled pilot. I would bet 80-90% of this group would leave tomorrow. Unless they have a business.

“If it’s so bad....why don’t you leave?” Believe me....I’m trying. Most of us FO's are trying.

Look....I get it. I worked for a failing regional and understand why someone needs a job......any job. But understand that you will be distracted (during our pathetic minimalist training) and will lose focus on the prize. Getting to a well paying successful major with good prospects for the future. THAT is your goal.

Why would anyone come here?. There were NO POSTS warning me when I applied here. NONE WHATSOEVER ��. If I saw them I would give serious thought to wasting ANY time at this place.


We have pathetic minimalist training?
No doubt we have issues—-)(lots)(—but the training?

I kind of liked not having stacks and stacks of note cards and a defined oral that wasn’t left up to the examiner to ask how many steps are on the crj pax door...I think 7 but I just said I wasn’t on weight watchers so I don’t count steps.

My only issue was they didn’t leave much room if you did need to repeat a lesson and that totally messed up the schedule.

I thought training was fair and laid back but I’m on the 190 the bus guys always seemed more stressed, if you want the full experience I think(could be wrong) SWA does it old school no AQP.

As for 80 to 90% seems a bit high but this is APC world so I won’t question that number. :)

Burton78 03-27-2018 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2560214)
We have pathetic minimalist training?

No doubt we have issues—-)(lots)(—but the training?



I kind of liked not having stacks and stacks of note cards and a defined oral that wasn’t left up to the examiner to ask how many steps are on the crj pax door...I think 7 but I just said I wasn’t on weight watchers so I don’t count steps.



My only issue was they didn’t leave much room if you did need to repeat a lesson and that totally messed up the schedule.



I thought training was fair and laid back but I’m on the 190 the bus guys always seemed more stressed, if you want the full experience I think(could be wrong) SWA does it old school no AQP.



As for 80 to 90% seems a bit high but this is APC world so I won’t question that number. :)



SWA does have AQP.


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