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aldonite7667 04-09-2018 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2568716)
12, as in the number of JB whiners on here.

Look, I get it, the lack of a contract after 3+ years sucks. And I feel for you folks because of that. But it WILL come. Others have waited longer.

I’m not there, and I don’t know what “the suck” is like, but I talk to JB pilots in person who say it is not as bad as portrayed here on APC. Some are actually happy to be there. And for some regional pilots, it’s a step up QOL and pay wise. But it’s hard to put yourself in THEIR shoes when your shoes feel so pinched and miserable. But it can still be a better place to move up to for them.

Nobody is going to tell you “they” suck. Pilots are proud. Bottom line, look at the numbers and the work rules. If Jetblue doesn’t suck to you, then you are probably unqualified or under qualified. That isn’t a knock. It just is what it is.

IQuitEagle 04-09-2018 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2568675)
Jesus Effing Murphy!! Can you Negative Nancies just keep the sh!tty posts in your threads, and not contaminate the threads of those who are trying to get to JB and improve their lives, and who actually believe in the company? You may not realize it, but those of you who are SO negative are in the minority at JB. You are only the majority here at APC.

If you have nothing constructive to say, then go post in the “latest and greatest” thread, or any of the myriad other ones that are contaminated by the 12 people here who think life sux so badly. Meanwhile, the new hires will keep coming, pushing you up on the SL, and you can make fun of them on the line. If you have the balls to do it in person, which I seriously doubt.

/rant over

So I take it you are not a pilot at JB. How can you state so emphatically that you know those who are negative about the current state of affairs there are the minority? If you aspire to work at JB fine, but don't pretend like you know more about the company and the reality for pilots there than they do.

rvr1800 04-09-2018 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2568675)
Jesus Effing Murphy!! Can you Negative Nancies just keep the sh!tty posts in your threads, and not contaminate the threads of those who are trying to get to JB and improve their lives, and who actually believe in the company? You may not realize it, but those of you who are SO negative are in the minority at JB. You are only the majority here at APC.

If you have nothing constructive to say, then go post in the “latest and greatest” thread, or any of the myriad other ones that are contaminated by the 12 people here who think life sux so badly. Meanwhile, the new hires will keep coming, pushing you up on the SL, and you can make fun of them on the line. If you have the balls to do it in person, which I seriously doubt.

/rant over

I can assure you it’s an overwhelming majority of our pilots who are ****ed off right now.

You say you “believe in the company” what exactly do you mean by that? If you believe it’s different than any other airline in terms of how pilots are treated you’re in for a rude awakening.

Bluedriver 04-09-2018 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2568509)
It's funny how quiet you were at the 193 meeting yet here we go again.....You could have said anything to me you wanted to.....but you said nothing?......

I have never lied...ever here......Maybe it's you believe anything you hear?!

Yeah... Just like I told you before, I do NOT trust you with any of my identifying information, and I don't want to hear any of your words.

I don't trust anyone who still thinks this place is the monkey's bananas while we are deep in a labor dispute and things have quite literally never been worse here.

So just because you go to a local meeting as a company plant and to give yourself some street cred to sell the #keepsgettingbetter message on APC, doesn't work for me!

Bluedriver 04-09-2018 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 2568755)
I can assure you it’s an overwhelming majority of our pilots who are ****ed off right now.

You say you “believe in the company” what exactly do you mean by that? If you believe it’s different than any other airline in terms of how pilots are treated you’re in for a rude awakening.

This. All of this. Dude can "believe" in JB all he wants, the reality is that 20% of our pilots attended our first picketing event, with many more who wanted to be there but couldn't, myself included.

The morale here is bad, worst I've ever seen, and getting worse.

Like the other guy said, pilots are proud and not likely to admit how bad it really is or that they made a mistake coming here....

SideFlare 04-09-2018 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2568675)
Jesus Effing Murphy!! Can you Negative Nancies just keep the sh!tty posts in your threads, and not contaminate the threads of those who are trying to get to JB and improve their lives, and who actually believe in the company? You may not realize it, but those of you who are SO negative are in the minority at JB. You are only the majority here at APC.

If you have nothing constructive to say, then go post in the “latest and greatest” thread, or any of the myriad other ones that are contaminated by the 12 people here who think life sux so badly. Meanwhile, the new hires will keep coming, pushing you up on the SL, and you can make fun of them on the line. If you have the balls to do it in person, which I seriously doubt.

/rant over

Yeah dude... Wait until you get accosted by a non-lanyard-wearing, company believing Captain for not cleaning during a (delayed) scheduled 38 minute turn in SFO when your release is not at the gate and the TDY maintainers are late because the rest of them got fired for time card fraud (mad props to the BOS and JFK guys that are sent out west to backfill that avalanche of debauchery). We’ll chat then. For those of you coming here and wanting to come here, welcome, and best of luck. You’re going to fly with the best in the industry. Steel yourselves for a fight and support the union. Don’t settle for second best. The contract will come if we stop accepting trash as the norm. Until that day, Fly SOP and wear your lanyard.

hyperboy 04-10-2018 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2568756)
Yeah... Just like I told you before, I do NOT trust you with any of my identifying information, and I don't want to hear any of your words.

I don't trust anyone who still thinks this place is the monkey's bananas while we are deep in a labor dispute and things have quite literally never been worse here.

So just because you go to a local meeting as a company plant and to give yourself some street cred to sell the #keepsgettingbetter message on APC, doesn't work for me!


You are still a coward! YOU had the chance to confront me and you chose the coward way as usual. Now you are accusing me of being a company plant on the internet but could not do it in person.

Yes I am aware that we are in a labor dispute. That is why I have done everything that has been asked of me yet you still attack. Funny how tough you are.........just not in person.

You continue to attack you fellow union brothers and sisters something opposite of what they encouraged at the meeting.

Are you going Rogue and trying to poison with your own venom?

Tow the Line not your little piece of cowardly yarn......

GuppyPuppy 04-10-2018 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by CanoeBum (Post 2568378)
He’s free to complain about the prospect of being assigned the 190, and we’re free to make fun of him for it.

Did you see the picture on BluePilots of DL’s seating area being packed to standing room while beside them bluejets seating area was empty at the latest job fair? What do you suppose would cause something like that? #keepsgettingbetter

Which thread is that picture on?

Gup

Bluedriver 04-10-2018 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2568800)
You are still a coward! YOU had the chance to confront me and you chose the coward way as usual. Now you are accusing me of being a company plant on the internet but could not do it in person.

Yes I am aware that we are in a labor dispute. That is why I have done everything that has been asked of me yet you still attack. Funny how tough you are.........just not in person.

You continue to attack you fellow union brothers and sisters something opposite of what they encouraged at the meeting.

Are you going Rogue and trying to poison with your own venom?

Tow the Line not your little piece of cowardly yarn......

Sorry Rocky, I don't trust you.

Anyone who thinks this place is the dogs balls while things have never been worse either has very serious judgement issues or worse.

Since I do not trust you, I will not be identifying myself to you so you can use it against me when you get to be junior chief pilot. Also, I hear enough of your words on here, I definitely don't want to hear more of them...

CaptCoolHand 04-10-2018 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2568675)
Jesus Effing Murphy!! Can you Negative Nancies just keep the sh!tty posts in your threads, and not contaminate the threads of those who are trying to get to JB and improve their lives, and who actually believe in the company? You may not realize it, but those of you who are SO negative are in the minority at JB. You are only the majority here at APC.

If you have nothing constructive to say, then go post in the “latest and greatest” thread, or any of the myriad other ones that are contaminated by the 12 people here who think life sux so badly. Meanwhile, the new hires will keep coming, pushing you up on the SL, and you can make fun of them on the line. If you have the balls to do it in person, which I seriously doubt.

/rant over

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We all believed in the company at one time or another... then the brutal reality sank in...

This is why we now have a union.

This is why we had over 700 bodies show up in NYC in freezing cold to show how much we no longer believe in "the company".


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