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texpilot 07-11-2018 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2632554)
25.R.5.g

Filler

g. Upon completion of a Pairing, a Short Call Reserve shall be released from Duty for the remainder of the day, unless Section 25.X applies.

Boom! Thank you RS.

Tex

Mattio 07-11-2018 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2632552)
Not sure how it will work, but there will be a bypass option.

The bypass option is only available when you have the same exact RAP start time as someone else. I rarely see two people with the same exact RAP start time on the 190, they usually stagger it by at least 30 minutes... maybe it happens on the airbus?

Mattio 07-11-2018 12:18 PM

Also, there is no bypass option for Long Call guys.

Rabid Seagull 07-11-2018 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mattio (Post 2632601)
The bypass option is only available when you have the same exact RAP start time as someone else. I rarely see two people with the same exact RAP start time on the 190, they usually stagger it by at least 30 minutes... maybe it happens on the airbus?

Rainbows and unicorns

I do like the title of that section:

-Short call reserve pairing assignment pass for next day assignments-

Well, if it's for next day assignments, why wouldn't a long call rsv get it?
Company already admitting they won't have long call reserves.

Now that section WILL come in handy before the DRO is complete, with opentime, to be assigned to only SCR ( because the 2 long call rsv's are busy).
Awarded in seniority order with pilots that have equal number of reserve days OR after the DRO with the same RAP ( not likely, like you mentioned)

Southerner 07-11-2018 03:09 PM

One thing that we should consider is that if the TA fails, some of these work rules will absolutely be modified. It is not the case that everything improves, no matter what. Pay rates will likely go up, but there may be a loss in some of the work rules sections.

Just food for thought.

texpilot 07-11-2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2632720)
One thing that we should consider is that if the TA fails, some of these work rules will absolutely be modified. It is not the case that everything improves, no matter what. Pay rates will likely go up, but there may be a loss in some of the work rules sections.

Just food for thought.

True.

Tex

queue 07-11-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2632720)
One thing that we should consider is that if the TA fails, some of these work rules will absolutely be modified. It is not the case that everything improves, no matter what. Pay rates will likely go up, but there may be a loss in some of the work rules sections.

Just food for thought.

Pure fear mongering and speculation. What we get is directly proportional to what we are willing to tolerate.

Think like a winner and you will win. Think like a defeatist, establishment, regional mentality, low rent pilot, and you will get exactly what you deserve.

We need to start winning, not just continuing to wave the white flag because people like you tell us we can't win.

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queue 07-11-2018 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2632241)
Good write up. Don't forget that when CS calls you the clock starts. No more positive contact required. If you cannot get ahold of them you must assume you will report. For dual bases this could be iffy.

The reserve rules are basically a wash from our current system. Some gains, some give backs.

And it's super vague about establishing positive contact using JetCrw. It doesn't explicitly say that you MUST ACKNOWLEDGE in order for it to be considered positive contact. We know that BJ already considers leaving you voicemail positive contact because someone has already gotten in big trouble for not answering their voicemail (that they didn't know they had).

The wording on this contract is horrible and dangerous.

Prove me wrong apologists and defeatists.

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HeloBubba53 07-13-2018 03:57 PM

I am trying to figure out (in this new TA) what is more beneficial for a guy who lives in base and bids reserve in order to not work very much. Should he bid LCR or SCR? SCR nets you an extra day off, but it's hard to say which guy will be used more. Any thoughts?

hilltopflyer 07-13-2018 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by HeloBubba53 (Post 2634328)
I am trying to figure out (in this new TA) what is more beneficial for a guy who lives in base and bids reserve in order to not work very much. Should he bid LCR or SCR? SCR nets you an extra day off, but it's hard to say which guy will be used more. Any thoughts?

Lcr will be used a ton I bet.


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