Of course trends change sometimes. Good Lord dude, it's a saying for a reason. Things change, but generally speaking the trend is your friend.

It's unlikely that Delta will suddenly be the worst run and least profitable airline, but it's POSSIBLE.

Frontier's parent company is VERY well funded and JUST ordered a massive number of Airbuses, 100 or so are designated for Frontier who is much smaller than we are. On the other hand, JB has been slow-growing and *slowing* growing.

Those are the trends and they are unlikely to reverse.

But they could. And Kate Beckinsale COULD ride onto my lawn on a unicorn and offer herself as a personal (very personal) assistant, home cleaner and personal chef.

But sadly on that last point, the trend is NOT my friend.

Good God dude.
All I said was trends can change as you actually just noted. But let’s go deeper into it based on past posts.

You say often on here that when you were hired we were growing and growing pretty quick. But the growth trend slowed (I know you like to define slow) or you could say and you did “stagnated” one way or the other the trend changed.

You have also cautioned not to go somewhere based on growth because it could change yet maybe that’s not the case with Frontier?

I’m sitting here looking at Euro carriers that grew quick and what happened. I’m not saying that will happen at Frontier but I do know that trend in this industry is the most common to change and change fast.

That’s all it was a joke hence the little smiley face. You need to join Giggitys office because you don’t like even a hint of “push back”

Here you go.
https://m.wikihow.com/Relax-Your-Mind

1. Yes trends CAN change, but you have to look at likelihood based on factors. Frontier is at a different stage of it's evolution, it's much smaller, has a parent company that has deep pockets and literally JUST placed a huge aircraft order.

On the other hand, JB is much larger, has been slow-growing and *slowing* growing for years. We literally JUST deferred (that's the opposite of what Frontier just did) deliveries. I do NOT accept that BlueJet couldn't get all 13 Airbuses this year if BlueJet WANTED them. JB is an extremely important Airbus customer and if JB actually wanted all of it's ordered aircraft this year Airbus would force other smaller companies to eat a D. BlueJet doesn't want to admit they got themselves into a training quagmire, and as you KNOW, BlueJet loves any excuse to defer aircraft. It's literally historical fact.

Those ARE the trends of F9 and B6, and the trend IS your friend. That doesn't mean it's set in stone for eternity, but if you have to place a bet with your own money, the trend is your friend.

2. Europe is a VERY different market. Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant have done very well financially while growing rapidly. Apples and rotten oranges.

3. :)

Go to Frontier- we have enough like you here already. Bye:rolleyes:

I still think you should go into politics as you change things to fit what you want.
Or PR you keep going with your new pet phrase.

has been slow-growing and *slowing* growing for years. I know I know the truth.

I don’t actually know the answer on the NEO it’s entirely possible you are right it’s entirely possible airbus is having issues. We pushed back the NEOs once and everyone freaked but it looked like a good idea after they had issue after issue. Or maybe it’s both. We have a training issue and Airbus has an issue a win win. Point is just because you don’t accept it does not make it so.

Back to the F9 thing my issues of concern were would PHL always stay a base and will they keep growing. That’s a decision based on two things that have the highest odds of changing.
That’s all.

But to avoid a long debate that will get us nothing, I’ll just admit you are right.

I'm rather fond of slow-growing and *slowing* growing...

😀

And yes the PHL thing is definitely a wild card.

Agreed completely about uncertainty of Phl. You know jfk will always be there for jb

It's a crapshoot. At F9 you MIGHT lose PHL but will most likely gain seniority much faster and in the next negotiating cycle possibly close much more of the compensation gap. Of course much faster seniority naturally helps close the compensation gap anyways in real world W2. Not to mention that all F9 pilots are on Airbus pay vs JBs TERRIBLE E190 pay (relative to what 99%+ of other MAJOR airline pilots make).

Yeah, yeah, I know, just being"negative".

Ditto. Pilotpayne may have had the autopilot on with his response but his autopilot was set to HELP mode. No reason for PotatoChip to chastise him and insult him for trying to help. Where is there going to be room for epaulets with a chip that big on the shoulder? Please go to Frontier

What type of character starts a thread by insulting those he’s seeking opinions from? I wonder if it was those unfortunate events in your career that got you that attitude. Maybe frontier recruitment will see what JetBlue recruitment didn’t. That snarky attitude you seem to have in all your post. I was gonna keep to myself but after reading everything you ever have to say on any board I just wanna say I hope you go anywhere but JetBlue. You’ll be worse than one of those posters you criticize in a few months.