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Reserve
Okay. After riding the senior Bus FO train for years, it looks like once section25 is complete, my ride is finally pulling into the station. I looked once at the CBA reserve section when the contract first came out but not really too big of a deep dive.
I'm thinking about biting the bullet and upgrading and was curious about those who are familiar with what reserve will look like once our CBA is fully inplemented. I'm a commuter, so my thought was going to be to bid long call. My understanding is that's the silo the DRO will be built from and the short call for the remaining open time. Is that about right? How much would guys get used do you think based on historical open time. I realize it will differ season to season, just trying to get an overview. Also, can reserve guys request or pick up trips on days off or do they have to request that from CS? Any other words of wisdom from the those knowledgable on the current and future reserve world here at JB would be appreciated. Thanks. |
My only advice to you and everyone else who has similar questions and/or are contemplating upgrade/downgrade/transition/reserve whatever is to read the CBA very carefully, read the FAQs and e-mail your questions to your reps. You pay a lot of $$$ in union dues, don’t be afraid to send an email to your reps, scheduling gurus or negotiators.
Good Luck. |
Originally Posted by capt707
(Post 2853931)
My only advice to you and everyone else who has similar questions and/or are contemplating upgrade/downgrade/transition/reserve whatever is to read the CBA very carefully, read the FAQs and e-mail your questions to your reps. You pay a lot of $$$ in union dues, don’t be afraid to send an email to your reps, scheduling gurus or negotiators.
Good Luck. |
Originally Posted by ParrotBay031
(Post 2853936)
Exactly what he said..... I think RSV is going to be a large unknown to everyone until it is fully implemented. The CBA is going to really show it's teeth to how good/bad it is based off of 25R and how everything else falls into place. The one thing you do know is that on RSV after 25R is implemented EPS pay goes away except for the last day of your RSV stretch which is a huge loss.
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Wow. Can’t pick up trips on days off. #workrulesmatter.
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
(Post 2853941)
Thanks guys. I'm reading that section right now. Several times. What I'm not seeing is whether or not you can pick up open time on your days off. Is or was that ever possible? I see where you're allowed to put in for VDA/RSA, but I don't see anything a bout trip pick ups.
It allows you in theory to have better control of the trips you get, but it’s not a perfect system. Those trips will go to High Mins CA/low time FO’s first before they look at the aggressive pickup requests. |
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
(Post 2853941)
Thanks guys. I'm reading that section right now. Several times. What I'm not seeing is whether or not you can pick up open time on your days off. Is or was that ever possible? I see where you're allowed to put in for VDA/RSA, but I don't see anything a bout trip pick ups.
Edit: Premium Open Time, will also be on top of your “eligible guarantee”. |
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
(Post 2853916)
Okay. After riding the senior Bus FO train for years, it looks like once section25 is complete, my ride is finally pulling into the station. I looked once at the CBA reserve section when the contract first came out but not really too big of a deep dive.
I'm thinking about biting the bullet and upgrading and was curious about those who are familiar with what reserve will look like once our CBA is fully inplemented. I'm a commuter, so my thought was going to be to bid long call. My understanding is that's the silo the DRO will be built from and the short call for the remaining open time. Is that about right? How much would guys get used do you think based on historical open time. I realize it will differ season to season, just trying to get an overview. Also, can reserve guys request or pick up trips on days off or do they have to request that from CS? Any other words of wisdom from the those knowledgable on the current and future reserve world here at JB would be appreciated. Thanks. So for flying on days off there is currently a mechanism in the FSM that allows you to bid for trips that are either purely on days off, or a mix of days on/off and get paid above guarantee for the day off flying. I do not see anything resembling that in the CBA, so I wouldn't count on that ability. You will have access to VDA/RSA as a reserve, but being a commuter that might be tough to work to your advantage. There will be a general premium open time window where lineholders/reserves would be allowed to pick up trips for 150%, but I don't think you would be able to pick up if it started on a day off and went into a day or RSV. The RSV placeholder in your schedule 0001-2359 will make it hard to add flying, since you'll need 11hrs of rest before. I wouldn't count on getting much more than 75hrs/mo (with some night, intl override tossed in) particularly considering the EPS rules will change for RSVs and we will lose out in that regard. When 25.R is fully implemented it will be several months before it is ironed out and running smoothly (hahaha!!) so just be prepared for a battle until that happens. The best advice I can say is please read 25.R and know it well. CS will make mistakes and if you dont know your contract then you'll get stuck flying some crap trip. We all trash talk BP and message boards, but they are great for the heat of the moment "Can CS do this..?" kind of immediate help too. |
Some things that really suck, and ways I was able to make my schedule better will no longer be allowed.
-Say i had a 5 day block and I was next in line to get assigned a 4 day in the DRO, I would put in for a day line or a redeye turn to “block” that 4 day. Assuming there was someone else to do that 4 day, I would be awarded it. That will no longer be allowed. You will only be able to preference bid for a trip that matches the number of days you have available. (25.R.7.b.iii.) -Also, once you hit 40 hours (credit), you can’t pref bid for anything. That can come pretty quick, especially in a vacation month. Together, these will gut the ways I was able to make RSV more tolerable. Tex |
Originally Posted by Ihateusernames
(Post 2853952)
Wow. Can’t pick up trips on days off. #workrulesmatter.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That’s actually pretty standard. I know at United you can’t either, not sure about DL and AA. Who wants to come in for straight pay anyway. |
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