Excargodog

Can anyone give an idea of how many pilots at each domicile, how quick you might get it out of training, and the seniority of the junior CA and FO holding a line at each? Any info you could provide would be helpful. Thanx.

ClncClarence

Numbers current for November bid period...some of these super junior FO lines are going to be atypical due to senior folks bidding reserve to get holidays off.

BOS
Total 320 CA: 305
JR Line: Dec 2007

Total 320 FO: 303
JR Line: June 2019

Total 190 CA: 202
JR Line: April 2014

Total 190 FO: 216
JR Line: June 2019

JFK
Total 320 CA: 599
JR Line: Dec 2007

Total 320 FO: 567
JR Line: May 2019

Total 190 CA: 115
JR Line: Feb 2015

Total 190 FO: 108
JR Line: June 2019

MCO
Total 320 CA: 88
JR Line: Feb 2006

Total 320 FO: 92
JR Line: Dec 2015

Total 190 CA: 58
JR Line: Nov 2012

Total 190 FO: 60
JR Line: Jan 2019

FLL
Total 320 CA: 246
JR Line: Feb 2011

Total 320 FO: 280
JR Line: May 2018

LGB
Total 320 CA: 101
JR Line: March 2006

Total 320 FO: 99
JR Line: April 2018

scudrunner13

Am I understanding this correctly, the junior line holding Airbus captain in JFK was hired 12 years ago?

Flyby1206

Yep, it looks right to me

Flyby1206

Great work Clarence

CaptCoolHand

It is for nov but typically goes to the 9-11 yr Mark. There’s a significant gap between a 2007-08 hire and the next round that began in 2011 onward.

Everything else is pretty spot on. Holiday months can be “interesting”.

GearAlarm

Are those LGB numbers correct?

That's about 20% less pilots in each seat from roughly a year ago...

jamesholzhauer

According to crewtrac there are 141 LGB CAs with 128 eligible bidders. On the FO side it’s 159 and 147, respectively. That said, it’s crewtrac which is updated more slowly, so guys who show as eligible bidders but are in training, some form of leave that doesn’t reflect their status in crewtrac, etc, skews those numbers.

Looking at the PBS awards for CAs, there were 126 active bidder CAs for LGB. I think 125 for FOs.

I’ll post what I’m tracking for each base in a little bit if I get time but I think all of them are higher than what he posted after doing a quick look.

jamesholzhauer

Here are the latest numbers per crewtrac:

Base Acft Seat Total Active
BOS 320 CA 328 312
BOS E90 CA 242 228
FLL 320 CA 269 251
JFK 320 CA 643 617
JFK E90 CA 124 118
LGB 320 CA 141 128
MCO 320 CA 103 92
MCO E90 CA 66 60
BOS 320 FO 346 341
BOS E90 FO 270 264
FLL 320 FO 316 299
JFK 320 FO 656 623
JFK E90 FO 138 122
LGB 320 FO 159 147
MCO 320 FO 128 112
MCO E90 FO 86 70

Here are the numbers as of the annual system bid award. First column was active bidders at the time according to PVBM, followed by the number of target active bidders by each effective date in 2020.
base acft seat actv 1/1 3/2 6/1 8/31 12/2
BOS 320 CA 330 331 341 356 369 385
BOS 190 CA 229 235 227 215 215 215
FLL 320 CA 267 269 275 284 291 301
JFK 320 CA 649 662 687 708 728 750
JFK 190 CA 127 130 128 126 126 126
LGB 320 CA 138 136 138 138 138 138
MCO 320 CA 97 96 98 98 98 98
MCO 190 CA 62 64 64 64 64 64
BOS 320 FO 316 332 346 359 376 392
BOS 190 FO 233 237 222 238 238 238
FLL 320 FO 298 295 300 307 313 321
JFK 320 FO 565 603 642 682 714 750
JFK 190 FO 105 124 120 125 125 125
LGB 320 FO 143 138 140 140 140 140
MCO 320 FO 103 103 103 103 103 103
MCO 190 FO 64 62 62 62 62 62
base acft seat 3726 3817 3893 4005 4100 4208

At the time of the system bid award, there were 273 inactive bidders (leaves, mgmt, etc).

Sorry for the formatting. Looks good/aligned when I put it in, but it doesn't align when I submit it.

GearAlarm

Thanks,

That looks like an increase since last year. More in-line with what I expected to see from LGB.