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SaintNick 01-06-2020 11:49 AM

Every option? But ya my mec did a crappy job speaking for me last time. I speak with my two engine taxi and apu on any chance I get.

disenchantMINT 01-06-2020 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 2952491)
Every option? But ya my mec did a crappy job speaking for me last time. I speak with my two engine taxi and apu on any chance I get.

As you should.

But for everyone saying the MEC did a poor job of speaking for them (and this isn't making any excuses for the contract), keep in mind there were pilots undermining the MEC by NOT following their guidance and negotiating in public by filling out Speak Up surveys or participating in polls like this one. One of the MEC's biggest roadblocks was the pilot group itself. That needs to change next time around, but based on a few of the regular posters here I'm not holding my breath.

Bluedriver 01-06-2020 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by disenchantMINT (Post 2952591)
As you should.

But for everyone saying the MEC did a poor job of speaking for them (and this isn't making any excuses for the contract), keep in mind there were pilots undermining the MEC by NOT following their guidance and negotiating in public by filling out Speak Up surveys or participating in polls like this one. One of the MEC's biggest roadblocks was the pilot group itself. That needs to change next time around, but based on a few of the regular posters here I'm not holding my breath.

Whoa whoa whoa. If you don't have at least 3 positive messages for every 1 negative message, many APC readers won't consider your posts valid.

However, the opposite rule does not apply. You need not ever make a critical post, all fluffers are just fine.

Please remember these rules if you want to get guys to raise their expectations above Spirit/Frontier/Just-happy-to-be-B6/This-jets-so-cool.

SaintNick 01-06-2020 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by disenchantMINT (Post 2952591)
As you should.

But for everyone saying the MEC did a poor job of speaking for them (and this isn't making any excuses for the contract), keep in mind there were pilots undermining the MEC by NOT following their guidance and negotiating in public by filling out Speak Up surveys or participating in polls like this one. One of the MEC's biggest roadblocks was the pilot group itself. That needs to change next time around, but based on a few of the regular posters here I'm not holding my breath.

Agreed. I hated flying as a fo during contract negotiations.

P-3Bubba 01-15-2020 06:21 PM

I hated flying as a Captain on Reserve. Nothing is going to change with this pilot group. Take a look at the numbers and names of the guys on VDA EVERYDAY! I see the same guys DH in my flights on obvious return segments from their VDA payday. So, yeah that’s not going to stop when we negotiate CBA 2.0. They need the cash. JetBlue needs the labor. Symbiotic.

I taxied safely, 2 engine and made the appropriate logbook entries during the negotiations. I would get lapped and yelled at by other brethren asking what I was doing? I was losing. We all lost. So what’s the point? Ah, JetBlue wins again. Poll away. Who cares.

-Bubs

GuppyPuppy 01-16-2020 12:24 AM

You forgot to include "closure of LGB".

GP

mkfmbos 01-16-2020 04:59 PM

Haha. Only 4% wants health insurance to get better. Incredible.

jamesholzhauer 01-16-2020 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by mkfmbos (Post 2958396)
Haha. Only 4% wants health insurance to get better. Incredible.

That’s an incorrect assessment. This is a poll in which you can only select one answer. And anybody, including non-Jetblue pilots, can answer.

I’d venture to say most jetblue pilots want improvements in all areas, including medical.

eatittom 01-17-2020 07:18 AM

The worst part about JetBlue is the pilot group. So many cynical jerks, evidenced by the unrelenting amount of stuff like this on APC and BP.

AYLflyer 01-17-2020 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by eatittom (Post 2958670)
The worst part about JetBlue is the pilot group. So many cynical jerks, evidenced by the unrelenting amount of stuff like this on APC and BP.


Funny, I've been here a few years and have met almost zero cynicism on the road with the guys I fly with, yet the same half dozen or so people on here and BP love to scream that the world is falling day after day and all of us are terrible people and pilots.

Everyone except 2 guys, I'd gladly fly with again any day of the week.


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