Jetblue’s silence is deafening
05-01-2020, 08:23 AM
#291
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Let's hope they give more than the minimum amount of LCR lines.... Be a real kick to the stones if they force half the company into commuting to SCL lines where they know they won't even be flying. If so, I see some guys saying "Screw it" and just waiting to get an out of position.
In each Bid Period, the Company shall determine the required number of Reserve lines subject to the following:
i. The Company shall award a minimum of thirty (30) percent Short Call Reserve lines in each Base and Status.
ii. The Company shall award a minimum of twenty-five (25) percent Long Call Reserve lines but no fewer than two (2) in each Base and Status.
iii. All Reserve lines in excess of the monthly Short Call Reserve Line requirement shall be Long Call Reserve lines.
Ref: Section 25.R.1(b)
05-01-2020, 08:23 AM
#292
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Dangerous game to play. Guys have been fired for stunts like this
The commute is the issue. It’s stupid we are sitting there but just getting there is becoming so hard.
05-01-2020, 08:27 AM
#293
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by capt707
Have you read the CBA at all?
In each Bid Period, the Company shall determine the required number of Reserve lines subject to the following:
i. The Company shall award a minimum of thirty (30) percent Short Call Reserve lines in each Base and Status.
ii. The Company shall award a minimum of twenty-five (25) percent Long Call Reserve lines but no fewer than two (2) in each Base and Status.
iii. All Reserve lines in excess of the monthly Short Call Reserve Line requirement shall be Long Call Reserve lines.
Ref: Section 25.R.1(b)
In each Bid Period, the Company shall determine the required number of Reserve lines subject to the following:
i. The Company shall award a minimum of thirty (30) percent Short Call Reserve lines in each Base and Status.
ii. The Company shall award a minimum of twenty-five (25) percent Long Call Reserve lines but no fewer than two (2) in each Base and Status.
iii. All Reserve lines in excess of the monthly Short Call Reserve Line requirement shall be Long Call Reserve lines.
Ref: Section 25.R.1(b)
Company determines for a given month they need a minimum of 75% SCR and 25% LCR. We have no access to the number the company determines until after the bid awards.
05-01-2020, 08:41 AM
#294
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Key word: “minimum of”
Company determines for a given month they need a minimum of 75% SCR and 25% LCR. We have no access to the number the company determines until after the bid awards.
Company determines for a given month they need a minimum of 75% SCR and 25% LCR. We have no access to the number the company determines until after the bid awards.
05-01-2020, 08:47 AM
#295
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 17
I have zero issues with contract or companies doing what’s best for them.
there will always be things to better and debate.
All I’m saying is this is a bit of a special circumstance with routes almost nil to commute and the area is badly infected.
maybe adjust the rules until quarantine is lifted with union approval.
I think that might go long way on the “caring” and “safety” values
there will always be things to better and debate.
All I’m saying is this is a bit of a special circumstance with routes almost nil to commute and the area is badly infected.
maybe adjust the rules until quarantine is lifted with union approval.
I think that might go long way on the “caring” and “safety” values
05-01-2020, 09:37 AM
#296
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by capt707
Have you read the CBA at all?
In each Bid Period, the Company shall determine the required number of Reserve lines subject to the following:
i. The Company shall award a minimum of thirty (30) percent Short Call Reserve lines in each Base and Status.
ii. The Company shall award a minimum of twenty-five (25) percent Long Call Reserve lines but no fewer than two (2) in each Base and Status.
iii. All Reserve lines in excess of the monthly Short Call Reserve Line requirement shall be Long Call Reserve lines.
Ref: Section 25.R.1(b)
In each Bid Period, the Company shall determine the required number of Reserve lines subject to the following:
i. The Company shall award a minimum of thirty (30) percent Short Call Reserve lines in each Base and Status.
ii. The Company shall award a minimum of twenty-five (25) percent Long Call Reserve lines but no fewer than two (2) in each Base and Status.
iii. All Reserve lines in excess of the monthly Short Call Reserve Line requirement shall be Long Call Reserve lines.
Ref: Section 25.R.1(b)
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Key word: “minimum of”
Company determines for a given month they need a minimum of 75% SCR and 25% LCR. We have no access to the number the company determines until after the bid awards.
Company determines for a given month they need a minimum of 75% SCR and 25% LCR. We have no access to the number the company determines until after the bid awards.
Originally Posted by capt707
I understand, and that is where the MEC should have probably also negotiated a Max. However, looking at previous bids, the company has been pretty close to awarding the min SCL/LCR lines. So, any excess of the 30% SCR got LCR, unless they specifically bid for SCR
Umm, yeah, I have read that. I'm not one of the guys who sent in a questions to the MEC asking them how many the company is going to furlough....
But Flyboy brings up what I was trying to say. The company decides how many. I could be reading it wrong, but to me, the last point (iii), doesn't mean a whole lot if the company decides it needs 130 SCL lines. There's no max. I've never been fu;;y clear how that works out. You can nail me to a cross now.
05-01-2020, 10:05 AM
#297
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,211
Originally Posted by Rhinec
Which is why I keep going. Rather get furloughed in October than fired in June.
The commute is the issue. It’s stupid we are sitting there but just getting there is becoming so hard.
The commute is the issue. It’s stupid we are sitting there but just getting there is becoming so hard.
05-01-2020, 10:50 AM
#298
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,188
Originally Posted by Softpayman
Have you tried for an incentive line or COLA?
05-01-2020, 12:08 PM
#299
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by SaintNick
guessing he is junior if he knows he is going to get furloughed and if he is sitting scl. So probably cant afford to take an incentive line or cola.
but I want to be clear I’m not *****ing at company or union.
commuting is a choice but not one people can undo in a months time.
Crash pads are a necessity.
pit 10-30 people in one. One guy gets sick. 9-29 compromised.
mans I don’t know answer to this but it doesn’t seem safe or practical.
probably wrong thread but these have all gone off rails so I apologize
05-01-2020, 12:46 PM
#300
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 208
Next month is crazy. Ive been a solid line holder for 3 years. Next month I’m likely to be back on RSV! So few lines available and way more guys senior to me didn’t take VIL since they likely saw many of us line holders had much of our schedules dropped. I only had 1 trip not get pulled in 2 months and that was a 5 day modified to a 2 day. Bizarre times. I pray we get back to work and people start feeling safe enough to get back in our jets!
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