Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   JetBlue (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/jetblue/)
-   -   Jetblue’s silence is deafening (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/jetblue/128130-jetblueis-silence-deafening.html)

wallyp34 03-23-2020 01:36 PM

Looks like anyone from New York arriving in Florida is going to be quarantined for 14 days. How’s this going to land for us?

Ihateusernames 03-23-2020 01:38 PM

Jetblue’s silence is deafening
 

Originally Posted by wallyp34 (Post 3008931)
Looks like anyone from New York arriving in Florida is going to be quarantined for 14 days. How’s this going to land for us?


are crew still essential. Lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Flyby1206 03-23-2020 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3007257)
Looks like airline grants are dead, just loans.

back on the table

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cash-...174035223.html

SmitteyB 03-23-2020 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3008989)


Please let this work out, I want all of our pilots to have a paycheck while we get through this.

HighFlight 03-23-2020 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Ihateusernames (Post 3008934)
are crew still essential. Lol

I believe the bold part you mentioned was a NY rule. This new one is a FL rule. So if you land in FL, and CS tries to assign you a trip in 2 days, make sure you have the reference to Gov. Santis' rule about self-isolation handy. They will just assign the trip to the next guy in the chute.

Desdi 03-23-2020 07:53 PM

This order does not apply to anyone employed by the airlines and anyone who is performing military, emergency or health response, according to Gov. DeSantis.”

Bluedriver 03-23-2020 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3008989)

Well, as long as those idiots don't try and protect airline workers! That'd be the WORST.

Cirrusly 03-24-2020 04:21 AM

Anyone else having trouble picking up their dry cleaning?

HogEars 03-24-2020 06:02 AM

So is B6 asking for a bailout along with the rest of A4A or are they holding their tongue for the time being? I haven't been able to read through the tea leaves.

Flyby1206 03-24-2020 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by HogEars (Post 3009460)
So is B6 asking for a bailout along with the rest of A4A or are they holding their tongue for the time being? I haven't been able to read through the tea leaves.

Yes, they will be getting in on the money train.

Bluedriver 03-24-2020 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3009497)
Yes, they will be getting in on the money train.

As they should, even if they don't "need" it.

AYLflyer 03-24-2020 11:09 AM

I'm looking at loads on some of our transcons and I'm trying to figure out why we're still operating 5 or 6 flights a day out of places like SFO back to the East Coast when each flight shows 12-19 seats sold. Why aren't we consolidating our flying to maybe, one morning and one evening? Even at that there would only be half full planes. I get I don't have the big picture, but damn these numbers are depressing.

Bluedriver 03-24-2020 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 3009888)
I'm looking at loads on some of our transcons and I'm trying to figure out why we're still operating 5 or 6 flights a day out of places like SFO back to the East Coast when each flight shows 12-19 seats sold. Why aren't we consolidating our flying to maybe, one morning and one evening? Even at that there would only be half full planes. I get I don't have the big picture, but damn these numbers are depressing.

Completely agree.

Flyby1206 03-24-2020 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 3009888)
I'm looking at loads on some of our transcons and I'm trying to figure out why we're still operating 5 or 6 flights a day out of places like SFO back to the East Coast when each flight shows 12-19 seats sold. Why aren't we consolidating our flying to maybe, one morning and one evening? Even at that there would only be half full planes. I get I don't have the big picture, but damn these numbers are depressing.

waiting for the stimulus package to be signed

AYLflyer 03-24-2020 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3010180)
waiting for the stimulus package to be signed

Sure, but how does that fix us flying empty airplanes?

Flyby1206 03-24-2020 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 3010233)
Sure, but how does that fix us flying empty airplanes?

After the bill passes we shut down til Easter. Then probably a skeleton schedule where we fly a fraction of what we're flying today. Just my guess.

Bozo the pilot 03-24-2020 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3010238)
After the bill passes we shut down til Easter. Then probably a skeleton schedule where we fly a fraction of what we're flying today. Just my guess.

Its the only thing that makes sense- You cant have Cuomo crying on tv and then justify moving people around the country in a tube.
Looks like Easter is a target day by the Feds too.

wallyp34 03-24-2020 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 3010245)
Its the only thing that makes sense- You cant have Cuomo crying on tv and then justify moving people around the country in a tube.
Looks like Easter is a target day by the Feds too.

New York is a hotspot. Any chance we severely limit flights in or out? Haven’t heard from leadership today. I wonder if somethings in the works?

Bozo the pilot 03-24-2020 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by wallyp34 (Post 3010255)
New York is a hotspot. Any chance we severely limit flights in or out? Haven’t heard from leadership today. I wonder if somethings in the works?

I just keep getting my pairings reduced, as many are. I think management is awaiting closure on bailout. Def seem in limbo though. Good luck all.

capt707 03-24-2020 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3010238)
After the bill passes we shut down til Easter. Then probably a skeleton schedule where we fly a fraction of what we're flying today. Just my guess.

That would make the most sense to me. With the amount of cancelations they are doing and running a continuous IROP, and now wanting people leaving NYC to self quarantine, they might as well just shut ‘er down for a while. Hell, between us and other airlines canceling, it is nearly impossible to commute to/from work these days. They better offer some relieve on OOPs, because it is only going to get worse.

aldonite7667 03-24-2020 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 3010245)
Its the only thing that makes sense- You cant have Cuomo crying on tv and then justify moving people around the country in a tube.
Looks like Easter is a target day by the Feds too.

why do dems love to cry on tv?

Clear Right 03-25-2020 03:31 PM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qop1o7z28x...ality.pdf?dl=0

If Interpreting Figure 1 correctly: 1-LUV, 2-B6, 3-SAVE are best positioned through Q4 2020, in a Zero Revenue environment. Am I getting this right??

Trowserchilli 03-25-2020 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Clear Right (Post 3011734)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qop1o7z28x...ality.pdf?dl=0

If Interpreting Figure 1 correctly: 1-LUV, 2-B6, 3-SAVE are best positioned through Q4 2020, in a Zero Revenue environment. Am I getting this right??

Those three not necessarily in that order plus Frontier are better positioned than the legacies.

BeatNavy 03-25-2020 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3011843)
Those three not necessarily in that order plus Frontier are better positioned than the legacies.

How do you know how healthy F9 is since they are private?

SaintNick 03-25-2020 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3011850)
How do you know how healthy F9 is since they are private?

he works there and is their #1 cheerleader.

Bluedriver 03-25-2020 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3011851)
he works there and is their #1 cheerleader.

Cheerleader is an understatement. And of course, he doesn't know how healthy frontier actually is, and doesn't know how much money Indigo is willing to dump down that dump.

Ok, I don't think F9 is a dump, just thought that sounded funny. 😁

Chief Brody 03-26-2020 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3012124)
Cheerleader is an understatement. And of course, he doesn't know how healthy frontier actually is, and doesn't know how much money Indigo is willing to dump down that dump.

Ok, I don't think F9 is a dump, just thought that sounded funny. 😁

Based on past practices I think Indigo will end up buying another distressed airline
So I would tread lightly around the karma police

Virgalask330 03-26-2020 03:26 AM

What’s the state of our cargo operations? I remember we expanded our partnership with some company in order to find “opportunities” to expand.

Ted Striker 03-26-2020 04:19 AM

Any word on our slice of the pie, from the bailout?

nuball5 03-26-2020 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by Ted Striker (Post 3012205)
Any word on our slice of the pie, from the bailout?

Someone on BP’s (very official I know) said 1.2B I believe.

Flyby1206 03-26-2020 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Ted Striker (Post 3012205)
Any word on our slice of the pie, from the bailout?

start digging :D

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...CARES-ACT.html

Trowserchilli 03-26-2020 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3012167)
Based on past practices I think Indigo will end up buying another distressed airline
So I would tread lightly around the karma police

Spot on.

This bunch has gotten awfully chippy for flying around for peanuts just a few years ago. I’ll stay off your board going forward.
Just post a comment to help a guy out and get butchered.

And cheerleader? Ole Bluedrivers the biggest cheerleader of the whole lot.

Yeah we know Frontiers private. We also know what our cash position is. We’ll be just fine. We didn’t just need a billion dollar loan and if I were going to bet, probably won’t borrow any from the government.

We also know Indigo placed the largest aircraft order in aviation history last year. That doesn’t happen with bad balance sheets.

Best of luck guys.

Virgalask330 03-26-2020 06:20 AM

We also know Indigo placed the largest aircraft order in aviation history last year. That doesn’t happen with bad balance sheets.

Best of luck guys.[/QUOTE]

That absolutely does happen.

Flyby1206 03-26-2020 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3012240)


Damnit, I'll do it!

$1.156bil total for JB payroll support. Numbers pulled from 2Q and 3Q 2019 as described below (page 589)


(a) AWARDABLE AMOUNTS.—The Secretary shall

25 provide financial assistance under this subtitle—


(1) to an air carrier in an amount equal to the

2 salaries and benefits reported by the air carrier to

3 the Department of Transportation pursuant to part

4 241 of title 14, Code of Federal Regulations, for the

5 period from April 1, 2019, through September 30,

6 2019; and
and yes, F9 would be eligible too:


(2) to an air carrier that does not transmit re8
ports under such part 241, in an amount that such
9 air carrier certifies, using sworn financial statements
10 or other appropriate data, as the amount of wages,
11 salaries, benefits, and other compensation that such
12 air carrier paid the employees of such air carrier
13 during the period from April 1, 2019, through Sep14
tember 30, 2019; and

CaptCoolHand 03-26-2020 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Virgalask330 (Post 3012355)
We also know Indigo placed the largest aircraft order in aviation history last year. That doesn’t happen with bad balance sheets.

Best of luck guys.

That absolutely does happen.[/QUOTE]

right!!

AA comes to mind.
where’s this guy getting his high horse from. Was frontier not republic just a few years ago? What’s their contract look like? I never bothered because it wasn’t worth looking at.

pilotpayne 03-26-2020 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 3012419)
That absolutely does happen.

right!!

AA comes to mind.
where’s this guy getting his high horse from. Was frontier not republic just a few years ago? What’s their contract look like? I never bothered because it wasn’t worth looking at.[/QUOTE]

Just call him sally.

https://aeropx.com/photo/20170319162114

Bluedriver 03-26-2020 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Chief Brody (Post 3012167)
Based on past practices I think Indigo will end up buying another distressed airline
So I would tread lightly around the karma police

You mistakenly assume that would bother me.

It doesn't. And who acquired who is not part of any ALPA merger policy, so if it happened, just say thank you for the much better contract B6 would bring you.

You're welcome.

Bluedriver 03-26-2020 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Trowserchilli (Post 3012258)
Spot on.

This bunch has gotten awfully chippy for flying around for peanuts just a few years ago. I’ll stay off your board going forward.
Just post a comment to help a guy out and get butchered.

And cheerleader? Ole Bluedrivers the biggest cheerleader of the whole lot.

Yeah we know Frontiers private. We also know what our cash position is. We’ll be just fine. We didn’t just need a billion dollar loan and if I were going to bet, probably won’t borrow any from the government.

We also know Indigo placed the largest aircraft order in aviation history last year. That doesn’t happen with bad balance sheets.

Best of luck guys.

I'm a JB cheerleader? Is there also now a walking bridge to the moon I wasn't aware of?

​​​​​So Indigo is just like AA? Good to know.

Bye HeadChili.

Bluedriver 03-26-2020 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3012360)
Damnit, I'll do it!

$1.156bil total for JB payroll support. Numbers pulled from 2Q and 3Q 2019 as described below (page 589)



and yes, F9 would be eligible too:

PLUS access to low/no interest loans, if needed, correct?

Flyby1206 03-26-2020 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3012632)
PLUS access to low/no interest loans, if needed, correct?

correct
10 characters


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:40 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands