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Old 04-05-2020 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
didn’t we remortgage some to do stock buybacks?

Yea a few but we still outright own more than most other airlines.


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Old 04-05-2020 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Yea a few but we still outright own more than most other airlines.


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Piper Turbo Lance with a runout engine on Trade a Plane. We can use that for JFK BTV given the 3 people I usually carry...
Pay cash. They’d prob go lower than the 89K they’re asking.
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Old 04-05-2020 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil Laschio
Piper Turbo Lance with a runout engine on Trade a Plane. We can use that for JFK BTV given the 3 people I usually carry...
Pay cash. They’d prob go lower than the 89K they’re asking.
Garmin 530 so RNAV 33. Gold. Pure gold.
ehhh it’ll have to be a twin engine. So upgrade that bad it to a Seneca and we have a deal.
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Old 04-05-2020 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Yea a few but we still outright own more than most other airlines.


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Doesn't matter.

On paper they may be unencumbered, but Management recently borrowed $500 Million secured by said aircraft to fund their accelerated stock buybacks. Oh yeah....that was a few weeks before this fiasco.

Simply put - they took out a Home Equity Line of Credit on the airline to pay themselves massive bonuses and now the employees will have to pay it back.
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Old 04-05-2020 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
The 220 bid just does not come out. If it's on the annual bid we can bid on it. If it is not on the annual bid then we cannot. That will be in August per the CBA. The company has said it will be on the annual bid.
Has the company stated that we are still taking delivery of the 220?

Seems like they may decide to push that back.

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Old 04-05-2020 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Doesn't matter.

On paper they may be unencumbered, but Management recently borrowed $500 Million secured by said aircraft to fund their accelerated stock buybacks. Oh yeah....that was a few weeks before this fiasco.

Simply put - they took out a Home Equity Line of Credit on the airline to pay themselves massive bonuses and now the employees will have to pay it back.
Not one friggin dime from US.

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Old 04-05-2020 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Yea I meant outright owns, no payments.


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Not correct
210 aircraft to own outright is a nice 21B . if you average 100 mil per aircraft which by the way they had a price tag bigger than 100 mil


here is what was reported for JB March 6th

debt/equity 60%
cash 829 million
other liquify 372million
credit line 550 m

ASSETS 200 million

now go back to ERAU
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Old 04-05-2020 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
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210 aircraft to own outright is a nice 21B . if you average 100 mil per aircraft which by the way they had a price tag bigger than 100 mil


here is what was reported for JB March 6th

debt/equity 60%
cash 829 million
other liquify 372million
credit line 550 m

ASSETS 200 million

now go back to ERAU
The planes were nowhere near $100 million a copy. Not even in the ballpark.

$100MM for an A321. That's fkn hilarious. Go back to community college?
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Old 04-05-2020 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Not correct
210 aircraft to own outright is a nice 21B . if you average 100 mil per aircraft which by the way they had a price tag bigger than 100 mil


here is what was reported for JB March 6th

debt/equity 60%
cash 829 million
other liquify 372million
credit line 550 m

ASSETS 200 million

now go back to ERAU
Swing and a miss.
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Old 04-05-2020 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by copy
Swing and a miss.
APC Rule #1: if you're going to go to another airline's forum and try to talk sht, don't make a complete fool of yourself in the process. Seems like there's a lot of that spilling over from the United forum lately. Are they trying to take over Delta's reputation?
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