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pilotpayne 04-06-2020 07:42 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3024770)
Not correct
210 aircraft to own outright is a nice 21B . if you average 100 mil per aircraft which by the way they had a price tag bigger than 100 mil


here is what was reported for JB March 6th

debt/equity 60%
cash 829 million
other liquify 372million
credit line 550 m

ASSETS 200 million

now go back to ERAU

what exactly are you trying to get at here?
are you here to say United is in a better position vs JetBlue? I don’t get the point of this,

knewyork 04-06-2020 07:55 AM
This is my opinion, but isn’t JetBlue in a better position to get going again when this is all done? Seems like it would be very hard to restart UA/AA/DLs large networks all the while dealing with regional partners and a likely huge switch up of fleet plans.

full of luv 04-06-2020 08:18 AM
Originally Posted by knewyork (Post 3025147)
This is my opinion, but isn’t JetBlue in a better position to get going again when this is all done? Seems like it would be very hard to restart UA/AA/DLs large networks all the while dealing with regional partners and a likely huge switch up of fleet plans.
A lot of that depends on how does the "get going" when all this is done goes...... Do people suddenly flock to vacations in FL or the Caribbean? Or do businesses send out their personnel on trips again? Do people flock to airplanes domestically but shun international travel? Or is the world economy so wrecked that no one has the desire nor means to travel to vacation till summer of 2022 at the earliest? Maybe this month they discover that one of the vaccines is 100% effective 2 days after administered and they have a program to vaccinate the whole country by the end of July and by September people forget COVID19?

Sniper66 04-06-2020 09:27 AM
Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 3025128)
what exactly are you trying to get at here?
are you here to say United is in a better position vs JetBlue? I don’t get the point of this,



Freedom of stating an opinion
based on facts pointed by financial experts
not pilots
all airlines are into s—-


carry on

Sniper66 04-06-2020 09:35 AM
Originally Posted by disenchantMINT (Post 3024797)
The planes were nowhere near $100 million a copy. Not even in the ballpark.

$100MM for an A321. That's fkn hilarious. Go back to community college?



price tag for A321 is 115 million
google it genius
I am sure JB got a discount though

copy 04-06-2020 09:36 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3025236)
Freedom of stating an opinion
based of facts pointed by the finance experts
not pilots
all airlines are into s—-


carry on
Your “facts” weren’t even close. https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quot.../balance-sheet

You can also go look on the jetblue IR website.

copy 04-06-2020 09:38 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3025243)
price tag for A321 is 115 million
google it genius
I am sure JB got a discount though
Airplane list prices are never paid. For example, an A220-300 list price is $91m. JetBlue and Delta both paid between $20-$25m (or at least got that price, we will see when they actually get delivered). List prices have no real bearing on prices paid, or the value of assets once they are owned/leased and used.

CaptCoolHand 04-06-2020 09:39 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3025243)
price tag for A321 is 115 million
google it genius
I am sure JB got a discount though
A discount?
If you buy A airplane, you pay list. when you buy 200+ yea, there's a discount.
Then there's the actual value of a slightly used plane.

Still not sure what you're arguing because your numbers are off in lala land.

Bluedriver 04-06-2020 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3025236)
Freedom of stating an opinion
based on facts pointed by financial experts
not pilots
all airlines are into s—-


carry on
What's source of the "facts" you stated? A very incorrect Leeman News article? Is that where you got 200M in assets?

pilotpayne 04-06-2020 12:15 PM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3025236)
Freedom of stating an opinion
based on facts pointed by financial experts
not pilots
all airlines are into s—-


carry on

Thanks so much. You must be a captain.


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