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BangDingOw 04-20-2020 03:02 PM

JetBlue trying to be sneaky about furloughing
 
https://onemileatatime.com/jetblue-f...D7p5Go9X3lZVaY

This looks like a easy way to lose the free government cheese. This is fake right?

aldonite7667 04-20-2020 04:34 PM

It’s not sneaky. In 2008 they offered the same deals. They are telegraphing that “the next few months are going to suck a lot.” They offer ways to avoid the suck.

todd1200 04-20-2020 05:53 PM

This isn’t an offer though, it’s mandatory unpaid time off.

captive apple 04-20-2020 06:28 PM

A bold move if the application has been accepted but not yet paid.

BangDingOw 04-20-2020 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 3037018)
This isn’t an offer though, it’s mandatory unpaid time off.

Thats a furlough.

todd1200 04-20-2020 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by BangDingOw (Post 3037051)
Thats a furlough.

I should’ve quoted Aldonite, my previous post was in response to his.

queue 04-20-2020 09:25 PM

Full pay till the last day.

aldonite7667 04-21-2020 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 3037126)
Full pay till the last day.

this is really all that needs to be said. Whatever the other work groups do is up to them.

SmitteyB 04-21-2020 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by BangDingOw (Post 3036864)
https://onemileatatime.com/jetblue-f...D7p5Go9X3lZVaY

This looks like a easy way to lose the free government cheese. This is fake right?

DAL doing the EXACT same thing.

Phil Laschio 04-21-2020 04:59 AM

I did a BTV round with 3 passengers and 15 employees were working the gate area. Agents and ramp. I asked why so many people since the terminal was empty and the employees told me there’s some state law that says JB can’t force them to take time off. I never followed up I just know employees were literally just hanging out in chairs with nothing to do.

feltf4 04-21-2020 01:41 PM

Don’t worry. We are getting furloughed. We have tons of guys fighting over trips with 3 legs. 5.5 hour sits between all legs and dh home on a motorbike from JFK while it’s raining. Wonder how many guys are making 50k this month? Pretty silly to think that people took 50 hour lines to sit at home when they could have just sat at home for 75. Nice work boys. Wonder how many people are going to make 50-60k a month when 1500 are on the street?

Roy Biggins 04-21-2020 02:12 PM

I was literally hitting refresh for 20 minutes, got lucky and something popped in. Added immediately and still somehow missed out to another crew member. I don’t even know how that’s possible.

nuball5 04-21-2020 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3037624)
I was literally hitting refresh for 20 minutes, got lucky and something popped in. Added immediately and still somehow missed out to another crew member. I don’t even know how that’s possible.

You’re wasting valuable milliseconds hitting the refresh button. Also wait on the Submit page not the open-time page if you’re not already.

Phil Laschio 04-21-2020 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3037603)
Don’t worry. We are getting furloughed. We have tons of guys fighting over trips with 3 legs. 5.5 hour sits between all legs and dh home on a motorbike from JFK while it’s raining. Wonder how many guys are making 50k this month? Pretty silly to think that people took 50 hour lines to sit at home when they could have just sat at home for 75. Nice work boys. Wonder how many people are going to make 50-60k a month when 1500 are on the street?


My 75 hour is now at 47 after three straight OOPs. it is what it is. Because 2-3 leg commutes off line only, 24 hours prior, to have a flight cancel 6 hrs before show time just isn’t working.

Roy Biggins 04-21-2020 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3037627)
You’re wasting valuable milliseconds hitting the refresh button. Also wait on the Submit page not the open-time page if you’re not already.

Good tip lol. I think I literally got beat by milliseconds. I don’t spend much time on Flica, but I am trying to pick up something. Our system sucks. It’s virtually impossible to pick up now. I’m trying to put a few extra dollars away for looming furlough.

PotatoChip 04-21-2020 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3037635)
Good tip lol. I think I literally got beat by milliseconds. I don’t spend much time on Flica, but I am trying to pick up something. Our system sucks. It’s virtually impossible to pick up now. I’m trying to put a few extra dollars away for looming furlough.

I am currently 4/67 this month on approved/denied. I spent a lot of time on FLICA. I've been beat by milliseconds on most of them.

nuball5 04-21-2020 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3037635)
Good tip lol. I think I literally got beat by milliseconds. I don’t spend much time on Flica, but I am trying to pick up something. Our system sucks. It’s virtually impossible to pick up now. I’m trying to put a few extra dollars away for looming furlough.


Lol no problem. You can also submit a request when the trip is showing black. Just hard to know the details of the trip, but if you really don’t care....

TheRotorTrash 04-21-2020 05:19 PM

You can’t beat the bots, dude... The threat is real.

Your name here 04-21-2020 05:32 PM

It’s the same few names for almost every trip JFK 320 FO. Including those that have been in trouble for Flica issues before..

SaintNick 04-21-2020 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Your name here (Post 3037764)
It’s the same few names for almost every trip JFK 320 FO. Including those that have been in trouble for Flica issues before..

just got to catch them while they are flying and turn them in for lying and cheating the system. Hopefully they will be fired if they are using bots.... just terrible how low some people will go to cheat their union brothers/sisters.

PotatoChip 04-21-2020 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Your name here (Post 3037764)
It’s the same few names for almost every trip JFK 320 FO. Including those that have been in trouble for Flica issues before..

I've been tracking... and 100% same people on the reg. They beat alerts all the time, and either sit there on FLICA 10 hours a day, or have bots.

TheRotorTrash 04-21-2020 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3037798)
I've been tracking... and 100% same people on the reg. They beat alerts all the time, and either sit there on FLICA 10 hours a day, or have bots.

It’s been the same people for years. The BP poll pretty much nailed it... Nothing will be done, and the *****s will keep on whorin.’ It’s a disgrace. Day one of furlough and the usual suspects will be picking up turns at .05 seconds post FLICA-drop. Unity is dead, culture is dead, all-hail Joanna.

wallyp34 04-21-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by TheRotorTrash (Post 3037820)
It’s been the same people for years. The BP poll pretty much nailed it... Nothing will be done, and the *****s will keep on whorin.’ It’s a disgrace. Day one of furlough and the usual suspects will be picking up turns at .05 seconds post FLICA-drop. Unity is dead, culture is dead, all-hail Joanna.

just dropped something. Picked up in less than 20 seconds. I timed it. Possible? Maybe. Realistic? Not sure.

TheRotorTrash 04-21-2020 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by wallyp34 (Post 3037857)
just dropped something. Picked up in less than 20 seconds. I timed it. Possible? Maybe. Realistic? Not sure.

I’m not sure if you’re disputing the existence of bots or not... Quite cryptic. Possible, I’d say yes. Realistic? Maybe.

wallyp34 04-21-2020 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by TheRotorTrash (Post 3037867)
I’m not sure if you’re disputing the existence of bots or not... Quite cryptic. Possible, I’d say yes. Realistic? Maybe.

If I had to guess based on my own history, I’d say they are alive and well. That’s why I stopped getting alerts. A waste of ten bucks in my opinion. I’m not alone on this forum wondering why this can’t be stopped. Shameful.

ThreeStripe 04-21-2020 08:27 PM

You all need to submit a PDR to the union with the names of the offenders. Several have already been submitted. When enough PDR’s are submitted with the same names, the reps can go to the company and kill the bots.

feltf4 04-22-2020 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3037635)
Good tip lol. I think I literally got beat by milliseconds. I don’t spend much time on Flica, but I am trying to pick up something. Our system sucks. It’s virtually impossible to pick up now. I’m trying to put a few extra dollars away for looming furlough.

lol, in the previous page you admitted that you spent 20 minute pressing refresh? And now you’re saying you don’t spend much time on Flica? 20 minutes pressing refresh.......

aldonite7667 04-22-2020 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3037951)
lol, in the previous page you admitted that you spent 20 minute pressing refresh? And now you’re saying you don’t spend much time on Flica? 20 minutes pressing refresh.......


why do you care how he spends his day?

Roy Biggins 04-22-2020 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3037951)
lol, in the previous page you admitted that you spent 20 minute pressing refresh? And now you’re saying you don’t spend much time on Flica? 20 minutes pressing refresh.......

That’s some good detective work there Felt. Yea, we have this virus thing going on now...not sure if you’ve heard? It has everything shut down. So I recently decided to hit refresh for 20 mins while watching new season of Bosch. Seeing how alerts are useless and anything that pops into open time vanishes. Prior to this, Ive rarely used Flica except for the occasion swap. Hope this helps clear up the mystery. Or maybe you consider 20 minutes ‘much’ time. In which case, you caught me.

CaptCoolHand 04-22-2020 04:31 AM

We’ve got a senior 320CA who made 1.2 last year.

he’s very quick.

SaintNick 04-22-2020 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 3037979)
We’ve got a senior 320CA who made 1.2 last year.

he’s very quick.

hope he can live on 260k when we furlough. If any piece of crap picks up anything while people are on the street deserves to be punched in the face.

nuball5 04-22-2020 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 3037979)
We’ve got a senior 320CA who made 1.2 last year.

he’s very quick.

Is that the guy that lives in California but is based in Boston and somehow every trip was at VDA? Not sure how that was even possible.

CaptCoolHand 04-22-2020 04:53 AM

This guy lives on top of JFK.

Flyby1206 04-22-2020 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 3037979)
We’ve got a senior 320CA who made 1.2 last year.

he’s very quick.

holy crap. JS?

feltf4 04-22-2020 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3037976)
That’s some good detective work there Felt. Yea, we have this virus thing going on now...not sure if you’ve heard? It has everything shut down. So I recently decided to hit refresh for 20 mins while watching new season of Bosch. Seeing how alerts are useless and anything that pops into open time vanishes. Prior to this, Ive rarely used Flica except for the occasion swap. Hope this helps clear up the mystery. Or maybe you consider 20 minutes ‘much’ time. In which case, you caught me.

I could care less about how any of you spend your day. I’m sure many spouses and kids are beyond thrilled that dad cannot help home school or play right now because he’s gotta state at Flica. To each their own. I guess we should all wait to see who is crying on 10/01. But hey, big picture here. Its all about you and how quickly you can rack up that end of year quote for the end of year salary survey.

Like someone else said. Lots of unity and solidarity in this pilot group!

Roy Biggins 04-22-2020 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3038015)
I could care less about how any of you spend your day. I’m sure many spouses and kids are beyond thrilled that dad cannot help home school or play right now because he’s gotta state at Flica. To each their own. I guess we should all wait to see who is crying on 10/01. But hey, big picture here. Its all about you and how quickly you can rack up that end of year quote for the end of year salary survey.

Like someone else said. Lots of unity and solidarity in this pilot group!

The fuq are you talking about? Do you even know?

feltf4 04-22-2020 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3038018)
The fuq are you talking about? Do you even know?

Yah man, you’re going to be on the street in October flipping burgers at McDonald’s.

Roy Biggins 04-22-2020 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3038022)
Yah man, you’re going to be on the street in October flipping burgers at McDonald’s.

Ok buddy lol, maybe you need to go outside and go for a walk. I’m gonna chalk this last message up to stress. I can’t imagine you’re actually this big of a douche nozzle in real life.

feltf4 04-22-2020 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3038031)
Ok buddy lol, maybe you need to go outside and go for a walk. I’m gonna chalk this last message up to stress. I can’t imagine you’re actually this big of a douche nozzle in real life.

How is me speculating you’re going to be on the street in October make me a douche nozzle? Or is it that I rattled your cage after you said you don’t spend “much” time on Flica, subsequently saying your sat there pressing refresh for 20 minutes?

I don’t think I’m any more of a douche than you are yourself. I mean dude, you sat on Flica and pressed refresh for 20 minutes... and still didn’t get the trip???? Give me a break. If you want to come on a Douche walk with me you can, but we must stay 6 feet apart.

Bluedriver 04-22-2020 05:45 AM

Now girls... Play nice.


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