LOA 13 exit poll
 

I know anybody can vote on these and the actual vote will be different but I just want to compare it to the APC CBA poll

Great idea.

Will be interesting to see the data.

Bluepilots has the same thread going...

it’s 2 yes to 65 no right now. The poll leading into it is 24 yes to 363 no.

take it for what it’s worth

Yeah, but what did the BP poll show for the CBA vote?

Sociologists will be studying this for years if it comes back as a Yes vote.

Agree. Or it will be blamed on Dominion voting machines.

The BP poll for the CBA was
61% no
37% yes
1% abstained


The APC poll for the CBA was
70%yes
30% no
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/j...ally-vote.html

I cant remember what the actual yes/no ended up being but I think it was about 73% yes.


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like I just said...take it for what it’s worth

That’s eyeopening and good data, thank you.

Maybe it won’t be close like last time then. The key is making the polls anonymous. The PotatoFarm poll doesn’t hide your name and well....100% No.

LOA 13 exit poll
 

If this poll stays somewhere around 70% no Im pretty confident it wont pass.



I would bet on APC being the most accurate and only missing by 5% or so.



Current BP exit poll is

96% no (82)

3% yes (3)

http://bluepilots.com/viewtopic.php?t=55106

APC and Jblupilots. 65% Yes on the 2018 TA.

I’m not allowed to vote in the poll. Maybe it’s because I’ve either never posted or not posted in a long time. Either way, trying this and seeing if I can vote. I was a yes to the CBA but am a no to LOA 13.

Edit: Still can’t vote. Oh well

I voted no then voted no for you with a mail in ballot.

I am a Yes

I voted yes to the CBA for scope. I'm voting no to the TA for scope.

Fox3, LOA13
 

Yes, CBA
No, LOA 13 because of verbal assurances not supported with adequate language, esp. regarding scope.

No. Because reasons.

Same here. I am a NO vote as well.

Won’t let me officially vote, but I am a no.

Update on BP poll por favor. ?

90% No... little over 300 votes

LOA 13 exit poll
 

BP

295 (90%)- no
33(10%) - yes

Jblu
69 (77%) - no
21 (23%)- yes

APC (since on Tapatalk you can’t see it)
67 (77%) - no
20 (23%) - yes


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When is it over?

Feb 16, 1400.

It’s sad that BP had five times the engagement as the other two sites. Sign of the times...

It looks like $14 billion in additional payroll support for the airline sector is picking up steam in Washington. I wonder if that changes the dynamics of the LOA at all, most notably the furlough protection.

Yeah...we’ll have idiots voting yes to sell them scope for furlough protection they’ll get anyway. Bet the company communications won’t say a word about more gov money till after the vote’s done.

I’m a yes voter. I’m not an idiot.

I’ve stated my reasons before. Perhaps, calling people you don’t know idiots may not be the best way to gain respect?

I voted yes. I guess I’ll be in the idiot group with you.

you haven’t included JBPwives which is the vote that matters.

I couldn’t agree more..

True true


Last I heard it was pretty negative there too. My wife isn’t a member[emoji2369]


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In recurrent they said that any additional government relief shifts the decision date. So if the decision date is now Nov 1st, two months of gov. support would shift that two months into the future.

Where is that in writing?

Contracts can be wrong. Promises are what we need now.

If they promise that we'll get stapled to the top in reverse seniority order they can count on my vote...

Probably nowhere. I didn’t bother looking as I’m still a no. Since I posted it, I’ll go take a look and see if I can find it.

2. If additional Government support becomes available after the effective date of this LOA, the Company and the Association shall mutually agree to an appropriate adjustment to the date the Company may terminate Paragraph H herein pursuant to this Paragraph J to a later date.

I originally said I couldn’t find it. Turns out I need to read slower.

Everyone is a no until it's a yes. No one wants to admit to a yes because you get the blowhards calling yes voters sell-outs, morons, etc (CBA voters). Sad you can't voice your vote on what's best for you without having a-holes jumping down your throat. That being said, I'm a hell no on this one.

I can be turned into a yes. I’ll freely admit it. It’s going to take going back to the negotiating room, however.
Already have one “no” vote submitted.