B6 of WN
 

Lucky enough to have offers from both. Moving to base in either scenario. To me they both have pros and cons just wanted the opinions from strangers before making major life decisions. 😅

Where do you live? Not commuting should go above all else in my opinion.

If you're not smart enough to make that decision on your own, you're probably going to have a hard time with WN training.

Moving to base either way, I’m guessing that’s MCO then? If that’s the case, Southwest. Same thoughts if it’s LAX as well.

I’m pretty sure you already know the answer to this. Go to the smaller dumpster fire.

I’d actually go to the smaller dumpster fire. Specially with a spirit merger I think there may be more career potential than the domestic, 737, lot of work, stagnant airline. The airline is already big and pretty young group too. This isn’t a shot at Southwest, I love the airline and would love to fly there but I’d choose JetBlue still.

I feel like our dumpster fire is pretty intense right now though.

United, delta, or American. Maybe FedEx if you’re into that stuff.

Tough decision. Ones a big dumpster fire whose pilot group just gave away rights to almost half of its flying but it’s got quick upgrades. The other is less of a dumpster fire but an eternity to upgrade and a career of flying the 737….

If you don’t care about upgrading before 2030-35 go to SWA. If you’re cool with upgrade on the RJ, go to JetBlue. Either will be a good stepping stone to a legacy if you decide you don’t like it.

Doubt anyone hired this year will ever upgrade on the RJ. Over half will be gone by the end of 2024, and all but a couple gone by end of 2025.

I’d prefer JB easily, but to each his own. Depends on bases and career goals, blah blah blah.

Always thought I'd end up at SWA (nepotism, know people....), but ended up at Blue. I have no interest in leaving Blue for SWA at this point. I just have interest in improving our contract.

Fwiw... I left JetBlue to go to WN several years ago (I had only been with JetBlue for 6 months) and if I could do it all over again I would've stayed where I was.

Best of luck with your decision.

Were you going to move to NY or BOS?

B6 of WN
 

We were going to move. Hadn't decided where. We started looking in NH (I grew up in Londonderry) then WN called.

So Chet ... what did you choose?

obviously frontier I hear they are going to be a mega ulcc and take on everyone

It's crazy how crazy those crazy girls are for their ULCC model. Somehow it's gonna take over the whole industry, even though it's a fraction of a fraction of the market right now, and they have to run twice weekly service on much of there newly announced routes because the demand isn't there for daily service. And... They can't crack 30-40-50% market share in ANY large metro, something full service and JB has been able to do without any problem. Large metros, you know, where millions of budget constrained people all live within 60 mins drive of the airport, and they still can't make the business model work.

Have to do twice weekly from Topeka to Disney or seasonal service from Minot North Dakota to Mitchel South Dakota to see the world's only Corn Palace.

But hybrids (SWA and JB) can't survive long term in this industry... Facepalm.

It’s going to be so great there. They have big balls ⚽️

This is a SW vs B6 thread and here's Bluedriver whining about NK again.
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Got tired of playing pilot on the Financial pages Bluey? I saw you over on Seeking Alpha with your same "I'm a pilot" name trying to school the investors.
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I, for one, have never been number 27 in line for takeoff out of Topeka, nor have I ever had to do a gate return after waiting 2.5 hours for flow control into Minot. I prefer my job to be easy.

Actually it's a thread about B6 *OF* WN. Reading ability not required at the ULCCs?

And since this is difficult for you, I was responding to another poster who had brought up ULCCs. I didn't introduce it into this thread.

I did :)
look I’m just getting ready for the apparent demise of JetBlue and the rise of the ulcc.
Seems to be the common view even on airliner’s.net

Lol, Blue you guys have an 8% share of the industry. NK/F9 will have an 8% share also.....but we are projecting 650 aircraft by 2027. I think our growth potential and frequency increase will do just fine as a ULCC.

I still would rather have B6 as a partner though!


As for the OP go with B6

Based on prior orders and delivery schedules, JB was supposed to be much larger right NOW. Delivery deferrals are a real thing, ask me how I know...

Someone is Salty the NK BOD told JB to F’ off 🤣🤣

Why? You're going to tell us anyway....

Large institutional shareholders get the final say. They don't have financial entanglements/promises from F9 to pervert their decision. Only then is it over.

isn’t that who the BOD REPRESENTS?

You would think right? In this case it doesn’t seem
so.

Do you really think the NK BOD is going rogue against the wishes of the large institutional investors? I find that highly unlikely. If that were the case the large institutional investors would’ve definitely been vocal about this and we would’ve heard about it. My bet is that everybody’s on the same page and they are in agreement with how this is proceeding.

LOL, no way. The APC mindtrust knows better.

As an investor, wouldn’t you at least want to see a counter offer? And then possibly a counter to that? You see how bad JB wants this. Seems like they coulda played a better hand to get the most out of it.

SMH

Why would you counter something you believe has no chance of making it through regulatory approval?

i am not so sure we would have heard anything. The vast majority of information from those firms does not make it out for public consumption.
We will know soon enough, as I believe the investors will be filing lawsuits. They turned down over 30% in a year where nobody is going to make 30%.

Why do you think it has no chance of regulatory approval? Coming out of Covid, everything’s on the table. There will be consolidation…I think we can all agree on that. And didn’t JB send back another proposal putting protections in place in the event is was denied by DOJ? You must work for Frontier; you seem emotional about this.

Maybe because it was explained clearly in the NK response? (...and I don't subscribe to the aluminum foil hat theory that the NK BOD is only concerned with their well being.)

I do, you're very observant. Emotional? LOL, I think it's obvious that F9 wins either way, probably more so if B6 could figure out some way to convince anyone that the B6/NK deal was a good idea... DOJ, Wall Street, NK BOD, NK legal advisors, etc.

He believes it because the Spirit BOD said so, the same Spirit BOD promised 5 seats on the BOD of the merged company, that we know of, at a minimum.

I see you're a velostat hat subscriber.

Man I really need to go fly for F9
what an amazing company. They apparently will always win. If they merge they will be a super ulcc and crush everyone. If they don’t merge they will become a super ulcc and crush everyone. Nothing can stop that animal nothing. Obviously JetBlue will be gone shortly. Need to update the logbook

The koolaid is strong, that’s for sure. I wonder how their attrition is.