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Bluedriver 08-15-2022 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3478177)
I honestly don’t understand this point. Aren’t we flying less than 2019 with about 10% more pilots on property? Is the 220 and SQ causing the problem there, or is it scheduling (5 hr days for pretty much everyone), or is it something else? Seems like it shouldn’t be a problem to fly less flights than we’ve done in the past with more pilots.

Well, the SQ does require 50% more pilots per hour... But it's a small fleet. There is a lot of inefficiency (pilot wise) with standing up a 3rd fleet with lots of training events (for all 3 fleets) and lots of people waiting for OE and A220 pilots having low block lines, reserves for 3 fleets instead of 2, etc... But I don't know if that is the full explanation or just part of it.

But it's a good question. All I know is they reduced the schedule, which directly raises CASM dramatically. Which is enough to lose money when coupled with high fuel costs.

MainlineFlyer 08-15-2022 07:45 PM

This is definitely cheaper than paying your pilots and offering profit sharing.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblue-route-cuts-nyc-florida/amp/

Bluedriver 08-16-2022 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3478185)
This is definitely cheaper than paying your pilots and offering profit sharing.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblue-route-cuts-nyc-florida/amp/

Yep...

The EWR cuts I think are also largely about the new terminal not being open and the scat-show the old terminal is. But not sure. Might be both the terminal+staffing+market underperformance.

Desdi 08-16-2022 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3478286)
Yep...

The EWR cuts I think are also largely about the new terminal not being open and the scat-show the old terminal is. But not sure. Might be both the terminal+staffing+market underperformance.

Scat-show? I’m gonna miss those porta-potties next to the breast pumping pod inside EWR Terminal A!

Bgood 08-16-2022 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3478177)
I honestly don’t understand this point. Aren’t we flying less than 2019 with about 10% more pilots on property? Is the 220 and SQ causing the problem there, or is it scheduling (5 hr days for pretty much everyone), or is it something else? Seems like it shouldn’t be a problem to fly less flights than we’ve done in the past with more pilots.

The fact that we have more staffing than 2019 and less flights than 2019 but still having staffing problems probably points to schedule inefficiencies. Those days when our pairings were much better is not the case right now.

Roy Biggins 08-16-2022 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3478286)
Yep...

The EWR cuts I think are also largely about the new terminal not being open and the scat-show the old terminal is. But not sure. Might be both the terminal+staffing+market underperformance.

I think they’re planning on having it open week of Thanksgiving tentatively but early 2023 more realistically. I don’t see how Newark could be underperforming. The place seems like it should be a gold mine…flights are always full.

Desdi 08-16-2022 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bgood (Post 3478293)
The fact that we have more staffing than 2019 and less flights than 2019 but still having staffing problems probably points to schedule inefficiencies. Those days when our pairings were much better is not the case right now.

From what I’ve seen the last few months, since they took the schedule down, at least on the pilot side we are having very very few critical staffing days.

Bluedriver 08-16-2022 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3478298)
I think they’re planning on having it open week of Thanksgiving tentatively but early 2023 more realistically. I don’t see how Newark could be underperforming. The place seems like it should be a gold mine…flights are always full.

Agree. I think it is more staffing+terminal issues, throw in some high northeast fuel prices to boot.

avi8orco 08-16-2022 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3478290)
Scat-show? I’m gonna miss those porta-potties next to the breast pumping pod inside EWR Terminal A!

That hell hole terminal is to give the people getting off the plane a preview of what’s to come and those leaving a last chance photo op of their trip.

Giordano Bruno 08-16-2022 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3477545)
Merging with NK provides some immediate scaling ability (planes, pilots, gates, staffing, etc) to grow the JB business model.

"immediate"

LOL


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