Gear down on departure
 

Random question for you B6 pilots. Several weeks ago a friend was on a flight from Florida and the captain made a PA saying they would be leaving the gear down for several minutes after departure, so the extra sound didn't spook the passengers. Then a few weeks ago I was flying out of HPN and heard the pilot tell the same thing to ATC that they would be leaving their gear down for several minutes on departure.

What was the reason for this?

hot brakes

Or the brake temp monitoring system is deferred.

Not a bus driver here….is that a big performance penalty? Or if a motor blows on departure is the procedure to say screw it and stow the gear or just leave it out. I’d have to imagine it is a big penalty to leave it out and trying to use one motor to climb and drag the gear.

If you get the warning for hot brakes after retraction, it will tell you to extend the gear if performance allows. So yeah, with an engine failure, gear up. I would rather fly with the possibility of getting a wheel fire than not being able to fly.

On the 190, one sensor being inop has a procedure to leave the gear down for 7 mins after departure, taking a fuel penalty as well.

There is a note in the procedure to raise the gear in the event of an engine failure after V1.

Nothing like this on the 320 side.

Hot brakes, I’ve done that procedure few years ago.

Curious, what percentage of the JBLU Airbus fleet has brake fans? At NK, maybe 5% at this point. Always an issue in LAS in the summer time.

All of them. I’m hoping they retrofit the NK buses

Kinda makes you wonder about the 737 with no brake temp monitoring. Especially a heavy -800 or -900 with a ref speed of 160 knots. 🙈🙉🙊

Years ago I was on a JetBlue 320 jumpeat out of Vegas, and the CA (who was PF) delayed calling the gear up for 10 extra seconds or so after positive rate. He explained to me, "As an Airbus pilot, sometimes you want to remind this monther****er who's really the boss!" :p :p

All do. Plenty of guys panic if the temp goes above 100C.

:D:D until it starts doing weird sheit and shows us who's really the boss

Motors are electric.

Where does the motor oil go in a Tesla? And why are EVs called EVs and not motor vehicles? Perhaps because motor vehicles are cars with any form of motor, ie electric or ice.

I know right 😂

Inverted makes good points.

But I wonder if a guy would get debriefed on a check ride for calling out “Starting motor number one…” or briefing a “Motor out procedure”

HAL9000 needs no reminder. It knows.

So true 😂😂

But… at 100C the landing gear starts to repel rainwater.

What you don't know won't hurt you...

No. It’s not bold and blue and “the intended message is clearly conveyed.” Especially during non time critical periods, such as with reference to starting/stopping motors on the ground, or when giving a departure briefing (“if we lose a motor…”). Now if you’re referring to actions and callouts during an engine failure, standard industry and company lingo is “engine failure,” and all checklists and QRC/QRH items use the word “engine,” and for the sake of safety, standardization, and clarity/conciseness, those items ought to be read/said as written, since there is likely a time critical element. But at the gate giving a brief about losing a motor? No issue. There is no confusion about the use of that word and is therefore FCOM compliant, both in the intent/spirit and the literal verbiage of the FCOM.

Another option from Boeing…Brake temp gage and having some warning before the wheel well, which on a 737 is the main mechanical room, erupts into flame…Most 737 take-offs inside an hour of landing exceed the Airbus 300C limit…What you dont know wont hurt you or maybe….Nah, pilots dont need to know about MCAS