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Old 10-23-2022, 06:11 AM
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Random question for you B6 pilots. Several weeks ago a friend was on a flight from Florida and the captain made a PA saying they would be leaving the gear down for several minutes after departure, so the extra sound didn't spook the passengers. Then a few weeks ago I was flying out of HPN and heard the pilot tell the same thing to ATC that they would be leaving their gear down for several minutes on departure.

What was the reason for this?
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Old 10-23-2022, 08:10 AM
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Or the brake temp monitoring system is deferred.
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Not a bus driver here….is that a big performance penalty? Or if a motor blows on departure is the procedure to say screw it and stow the gear or just leave it out. I’d have to imagine it is a big penalty to leave it out and trying to use one motor to climb and drag the gear.
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Old 10-23-2022, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
Not a bus driver here….is that a big performance penalty? Or if a motor blows on departure is the procedure to say screw it and stow the gear or just leave it out. I’d have to imagine it is a big penalty to leave it out and trying to use one motor to climb and drag the gear.
If you get the warning for hot brakes after retraction, it will tell you to extend the gear if performance allows. So yeah, with an engine failure, gear up. I would rather fly with the possibility of getting a wheel fire than not being able to fly.
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Originally Posted by Nycpilot1 View Post
Random question for you B6 pilots. Several weeks ago a friend was on a flight from Florida and the captain made a PA saying they would be leaving the gear down for several minutes after departure, so the extra sound didn't spook the passengers. Then a few weeks ago I was flying out of HPN and heard the pilot tell the same thing to ATC that they would be leaving their gear down for several minutes on departure.

What was the reason for this?
On the 190, one sensor being inop has a procedure to leave the gear down for 7 mins after departure, taking a fuel penalty as well.

There is a note in the procedure to raise the gear in the event of an engine failure after V1.

Nothing like this on the 320 side.
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Old 10-24-2022, 04:17 PM
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Hot brakes, I’ve done that procedure few years ago.
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Old 10-25-2022, 06:08 AM
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Curious, what percentage of the JBLU Airbus fleet has brake fans? At NK, maybe 5% at this point. Always an issue in LAS in the summer time.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Curious, what percentage of the JBLU Airbus fleet has brake fans? At NK, maybe 5% at this point. Always an issue in LAS in the summer time.
All of them. I’m hoping they retrofit the NK buses
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Curious, what percentage of the JBLU Airbus fleet has brake fans? At NK, maybe 5% at this point. Always an issue in LAS in the summer time.
Kinda makes you wonder about the 737 with no brake temp monitoring. Especially a heavy -800 or -900 with a ref speed of 160 knots. 🙈🙉🙊
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