$36 an hour….I remember flying a CRJ for $21 getting the $hi; kicked out out of me in a blizzard going into ORD and then sleeping in a broken recliner in the crew room to do it again the next day because I couldn’t afford a hotel room or a crash pad. These clueless kids walking in to a six figure airline job with a wet ATP ****ed off they don’t get a summer vacation week have no idea.
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Originally Posted by raven1991
(Post 3582044)
BoomerIt is hard because for some of us this is just a job, and being 6 states away doesn’t really help much at getting father of the year award. Thanks for the inside though
Originally Posted by raven1991
(Post 3581934)
For those of you that recently made the jump to JetBlue from the regionals are you guys flying much?getting Reserve out of training?how long on reserve for?finally got a line at a regional really don’t want to sit reserve for months again, would be more than happy to stay at B6 but Would really like to take a shot at one of the legacies.
Originally Posted by raven1991
(Post 3582623)
Thanks for all the positive msg but I only ask because I am very satisfied with the pay at the regionals and would more than happy stay here to raise a family, I understand a lot of you airheads thing this job is everything but I would rather stay at a regional and be able to see my family more instead of sitting reserve 6 states away for another 2 years.
P.S. just wanted to know how long are reserve times at B6 Oh, and just because I can't help myself: Capitalization/interpunction "Thanks for the insight though" "airheads think this" (JFC) |
Originally Posted by Makaha
(Post 3582099)
Are the reserves in LAX getting used as little as the JFK guys?
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History shows again and again that the same event that shrinks or eliminates your regional airline will also slow or stop hiring at all majors. It will happen without warning and there will be no safe harbor.
These negative events happen every 8 or 10 years. The hiring wave we are currently seeing has never happened in most of our careers. |
Originally Posted by raven1991
(Post 3582623)
Thanks for all the positive msg but I only ask because I am very satisfied with the pay at the regionals and would more than happy stay here to raise a family, I understand a lot of you airheads thing this job is everything but I would rather stay at a regional and be able to see my family more instead of sitting reserve 6 states away for another 2 years.
P.S. just wanted to know how long are reserve times at B6 |
Originally Posted by DryClutch
(Post 3582774)
No. No you do not want to stay there to raise a family. Your family needs you to get out of there.
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If you live in MSP, DFW, or CLT, by all means skip JetBlue and gamble on getting hired at your local major/legacy airline. Never commute.
Otherwise, you owe it to your family to minimize your regional experience. Get to a major and then move to base. Literally no other way to win in this career. Rather than go to a regional with crap pay and quick upgrades, I wanted a regional where I could be comfortable to raise my family - “just in case” I didn’t get hired at a major right away. (Keep in mind this was right after 9/11 and there were about 12 majors at the time). So I went to the regional that had pretty good work rules and pay that was not terrible for a regional. It was called Comair. And I got to be home with my family. Three years on reserve, pay cuts, and a decade in the right seat. Then Delta pulled the plug and 1800 of us had to start over again at other regionals because none of the majors were hiring. Instead of commuting to the majors when my kids were little, I wound up commuting to another regional when my kids were early teens - and that’s when you need to be home the most. There will never be a good time to commute with a family, but there’s also never a good time to get comfortable at a regional. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 3582818)
If you live in MSP, DFW, or CLT, by all means skip JetBlue and gamble on getting hired at your local major/legacy airline. Never commute.
Otherwise, you owe it to your family to minimize your regional experience. Get to a major and then move to base. Literally no other way to win in this career. Rather than go to a regional with crap pay and quick upgrades, I wanted a regional where I could be comfortable to raise my family - “just in case” I didn’t get hired at a major right away. (Keep in mind this was right after 9/11 and there were about 12 majors at the time). So I went to the regional that had pretty good work rules and pay that was not terrible for a regional. It was called Comair. And I got to be home with my family. Three years on reserve, pay cuts, and a decade in the right seat. Then Delta pulled the plug and 1800 of us had to start over again at other regionals because none of the majors were hiring. Instead of commuting to the majors when my kids were little, I wound up commuting to another regional when my kids were early teens - and that’s when you need to be home the most. There will never be a good time to commute with a family, but there’s also never a good time to get comfortable at a regional. Sacred words of wisdom right here. If you think staying at a regional is safe, go try and find anyone flying for Pinnacle, Mesaba, Colgan or ComAir. Advance as fast as you possibly can. |
Originally Posted by BernieM86
(Post 3582830)
Sacred words of wisdom right here. If you think staying at a regional is safe, go try and find anyone flying for Pinnacle, Mesaba, Colgan or ComAir. Advance as fast as you possibly can.
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
(Post 3582662)
$36 an hour….I remember flying a CRJ for $21 getting the $hi; kicked out out of me in a blizzard going into ORD and then sleeping in a broken recliner in the crew room to do it again the next day because I couldn’t afford a hotel room or a crash pad. These clueless kids walking in to a six figure airline job with a wet ATP ****ed off they don’t get a summer vacation week have no idea.
Personally I stayed away from the regionals because I valued my skills and hard work too much to sell it for McDonald’s wages. Also, I did not want to further exasperate the industry and be another guy they hired saying “I’m willing to work for food stamps.” The old timers that knowingly went to the regionals when it was the worst of the worst WERE the problems. You only showed regional management that you could be bought for a cheap price and so you were. Stop complaining about how good new pilots have it now when you were willing to work for cheap with terrible work rules. If it was that bad you should have gone 135, military, or something outside of the aviation industry. Otherwise shut up and accept that you sold your skills for a lesser price than others. |
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