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Bluedriver 02-10-2023 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3589935)
I will say I’m not a fan of the blended sick/PTO system that you all have. Had it at a previous airline, didn’t like it then vs. a separate sick & vacation bank. Wouldn’t want it in a JCBA either….

You misunderstood. PTO at JB is for sick and PTO, not vacation. Vacation is indeed a separate bank. Although you can use PTO to buy additional weeks of vacation.

As for vacation, it is my opinion that we are about a week short on yearly vacation in each longevity band, but we get paid 35 hours per each week of vacation, which means in a month you have vacation you have about two days less flying to complete your line vs someone at another airline in a vacation month.

Of course I'd like to see more PTO accrual, another week of vacation per longevity block, and keep the 35 hours per week. And PROFIT SHARING.

TransWorld 02-11-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3589761)
The problem is 6 hours month is sick AND PTO. Not enough.

PTO = sick + vacation. Not PTO = sick + PTO.

PTO is Paid Time Off

Am I stating it correctly?

RJDriver900 02-11-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3590253)
PTO = sick + vacation. Not PTO = sick + PTO.

PTO is Paid Time Off

Am I stating it correctly?

PTO is paid time off. Can utilize for sick (if you don't want unpaid sick) or dropping trips. We also get V-PTO for our yearly vacation that is accrued separately from PTO each month.

Tranquility 02-11-2023 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3589980)
You misunderstood. PTO at JB is for sick and PTO, not vacation. Vacation is indeed a separate bank. Although you can use PTO to buy additional weeks of vacation.

As for vacation, it is my opinion that we are about a week short on yearly vacation in each longevity band, but we get paid 35 hours per each week of vacation, which means in a month you have vacation you have about two days less flying to complete your line vs someone at another airline in a vacation month.

Of course I'd like to see more PTO accrual, another week of vacation per longevity block, and keep the 35 hours per week. And PROFIT SHARING.

Thank you for clarifying. I did indeed misunderstand your PTO system. As long as sick and vacation are separate, I’m cool with it…. 🤙

pilotpayne 02-11-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3589948)
I may be in the minority, but I prefer the PTO bank for everything instead of separate PTO/sick/vacation. As it stands today I’m “forced” to take 3 weeks of vacation, and I can hold Jan-Mar and Sept/Oct type of stuff. I’d rather just take it as PTO to use for drops/sick or save it for down the road when I can hopefully buy better vacations with it. The big problem with our PTO system is the accrual rate, which needs to be much higher than it is today.

Edit: stanherman beat me to it, see previous post.



this. That’s why flyby should be MEC chair

Flyby1206 02-12-2023 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 3590584)
this. That’s why flyby should be MEC chair

🤣 🤮 I’d rather be based in SDQ

Bluedriver 02-12-2023 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3590553)
Thank you for clarifying. I did indeed misunderstand your PTO system. As long as sick and vacation are separate, I’m cool with it…. 🤙

Yet, more allocation of PTO and V-PTO is needed.

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pilotpayne 02-12-2023 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3590663)
🤣 🤮 I’d rather be based in SDQ


we can make that happen. With your ALPA pay we can get you a nice place.

Flyby1206 02-12-2023 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 3590677)
we can make that happen. With your ALPA pay we can get you a nice place.

Our quarterly MEC meeting will happen at the Adrian Tropical restaurant. Good luck playing Frogger to get across the street. Bring $5 to pay-off the pushy locals trying to shake you down for money.

Tranquility 02-12-2023 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3590664)
Yet, more allocation of PTO and V-PTO is needed.

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No argument from me on that part….


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