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Originally Posted by avi8orco
(Post 3764718)
10 years barely gets you top 1/4 of the FO list in MCO. There’s 20 year FOs on that list.
Then you’ll be pulling gear for about 6 more after that. When you finally get in the left seat you’ll be on short call flying all the redeye turns you can handle because that’s about all that’s in open time. |
Originally Posted by gottagetout
(Post 3764949)
Yes…..any idea how it is at other places?
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Originally Posted by ProPilotBlue
(Post 3765889)
The last system bid had 10 year guys in the award. I don't have the specifics handy, but you can be a junior captain at around 10 years in MCO. Yes, you'll be flying with FOs senior to you, no doubt.
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So with the reasonable assumption Spirit is toast, when do we start our own contract negotiations in earnest?
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Originally Posted by Tornado875
(Post 3766146)
So with the reasonable assumption Spirit is toast, when do we start our own contract negotiations in earnest?
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Originally Posted by PeakEGT
(Post 3766158)
This and has anyone smarter than I figure out what our MRA(snap-up) will be this August.
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Originally Posted by Tornado875
(Post 3766146)
So with the reasonable assumption Spirit is toast, when do we start our own contract negotiations in earnest?
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 3766161)
I came up with these numbers, which could be wrong. I dunno how they'll calculate the average. Will they add all the applicable rates for all the airlines together, then average those? Or calculate an average rate for each airline then average those? UA: 358.97 + 360.85 + 374.36 = 364.73 average DL: 358.97 + 360.85 = 359.91 average AA: 353.73 + 366.98 = 360.36 average SWA: 364.52 ALK: 340.25 Overall Average 359.94 (all applicable rates divided by 9) or 357.95 (average from each airline divided by 5 |
Originally Posted by todd1200
(Post 3766245)
I think it's a couple dollars higher than that. That doesn't seem to include UA's 321 or NEO/XLR rates.
I came up with these numbers, which could be wrong. I dunno how they'll calculate the average. Will they add all the applicable rates for all the airlines together, then average those? Or calculate an average rate for each airline then average those? UA: 358.97 + 360.85 + 374.36 = 364.73 average DL: 358.97 + 360.85 = 359.91 average AA: 353.73 + 366.98 = 360.36 average SWA: 364.52 ALK: 340.25 Overall Average 359.94 (all applicable rates divided by 9) or 357.95 (average from each airline divided by 5 |
Originally Posted by Bluediver
(Post 3766256)
The way it was explained to me each airline would get an average then that number would be the one added and divided by 5 like your example. However your rate seem to be the current or 2023 rates. Don’t most of them hit a +5% ish by August?
For AA, I used May 2024 (next chart is May 2025). For ALK, I used their Sept. 2023 rate, since their snap up is one month after our calculation date. I hope I'm missing some other snap-up, would be great to be wrong! |
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