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Old 02-13-2024 | 04:41 AM
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Why you guys and not NK?
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Old 02-13-2024 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Why you guys and not NK?
I was wondering that as well. Maybe because JB owns and has more unleveraged assets compared to NK that is mainly leases and future order book positions (I don’t think the future order books can directly be sold from NK to someone else without Airbus having a say)
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Old 02-13-2024 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
I was wondering that as well. Maybe because JB owns and has more unleveraged assets compared to NK that is mainly leases and future order book positions (I don’t think the future order books can directly be sold from NK to someone else without Airbus having a say)
He will pressure management to sell unencumbered assets. Aside from the mess he caused at TWA, I think and I could be wrong, but I think he has a history of doing just that.
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gottagetout
He will pressure management to sell unencumbered assets. Aside from the mess he caused at TWA, I think and I could be wrong, but I think he has a history of doing just that.
Yes exactly. NK is protected in a way since most of their assets are leased and not easily sold or leveraged to raise cash.

Icahn can even leverage assets like slots to raise cash to pay dividends to JBLU shareholders (his own pocket). Then when he’s done leveraging everything he sells his stake and JBLU flounders under the debt load, eventually going into BK to shed those obligations and likely losing some of those assets in the process.
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Yes exactly. NK is protected in a way since most of their assets are leased and not easily sold or leveraged to raise cash.

Icahn can even leverage assets like slots to raise cash to pay dividends to JBLU shareholders (his own pocket)
Yes. I’d say we are pretty much screwed.
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:30 AM
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Forgive my ignorance, but is he only a threat if he gets offered a board seat? I don't know much about large stake investing, but what power does he have as a sole shareholder? Is this something you can do on your own or do you need help from the ELT?

I assume he doesnt have power until he has a seat at the table, which I think must be voted on?
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gottagetout
Yes. I’d say we are pretty much screwed.
maybe more incentive for JBs BOD to want the NK Merger? I’m sure his wants and needs arent in alignment with Your New CEOs?
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Why you guys and not NK?
He can sell our European slots
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
maybe more incentive for JBs BOD to want the NK Merger? I’m sure his wants and needs arent in alignment with Your New CEOs?

Yup, I bet they extend the July due date too. They really need this merger now.
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Old 02-13-2024 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
maybe more incentive for JBs BOD to want the NK Merger? I’m sure his wants and needs arent in alignment with Your New CEOs?
I'm sure Icahn would be fine with JetBlue and Spirit getting together. Shortly after he took TWA private, he then had TWA acquire Ozark in 1986. The combined Airline was then slowly bled to death by Icahn with a Bankruptcy filing just a few years later. I'm sorry that you guys are going through this, hopefully it ends better for you guys than it did for TWA.
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