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Flyby1206 11-20-2024 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 3854014)
Agree....If I was bottom 200 or so CA, I would be worried. They're not gonna keep paying hundreds of CAs to sit around. What's the over/under on downgrades? 200 is my guess.

260 net downgrades was the rumor I heard

MergingTargets 11-20-2024 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3854006)
I'd be nervous if I was a very junior CA. I dont think we're facing furloughs or anything like that

Very junior captains already knew they were downgrading. The cancelled bid is a temporary reprieve.

And junior captains tend to be relatively senior-ish FO's, so they'll still be getting paid to do nothing, if they so desire.

Softpayman 11-20-2024 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by MergingTargets (Post 3854054)
Very junior captains already knew they were downgrading. The cancelled bid is a temporary reprieve.

And junior captains tend to be relatively senior-ish FO's, so they'll still be getting paid to do nothing, if they so desire.

Nah...they'll go from the VIL world or 3-4 days of flying a month to the world of having to show up 15-16 days a month. And showing up is 90% of the work IMO.

MergingTargets 11-22-2024 11:20 AM

How'd they get April training dates for the new displacement if the effective date is December 2025? Isn't 120 days prior the earliest they can do?

Flyby1206 11-22-2024 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by MergingTargets (Post 3854686)
How'd they get April training dates for the new displacement if the effective date is December 2025? Isn't 120 days prior the earliest they can do?

I think that would be advanced displacement training. Volunteer to go early in seniority order

ReachHeavy 11-22-2024 11:57 AM

Well there you have it, 343 downgrades.

MergingTargets 11-22-2024 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by ReachHeavy (Post 3854699)
Well there you have it, 343 downgrades.

Sets everyone back, what, 2-3 years? And LAX cut in half.

If you're an FO out west and you can swing it, go to the big 3... or even Alaska!

AYLflyer 11-22-2024 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by MergingTargets (Post 3854702)
Sets everyone back, what, 2-3 years? And LAX cut in half.

If you're an FO out west and you can swing it, go to the big 3... or even Alaska!

You shouldn't come here if you're a West Coast guy. I know I've chatted with folks on here looking for an LA base and I've always said that this is not a West Coast airline.

Hell if you're a junior FO, get the hell out of here and go to the big 3. There's no reason to be here if you're junior. Many of us are facing a 2nd, 3rd and 4th downgrade/displacement. It's going to take a decade to hold Captain here. There are 15+ year CAs here barely holding a line. It's sad really, because when I came here it was actually ramping up, upgrades were dropping to a "reasonable" level, we were hiring and showing growth, and then it's all gone to crap the past 3 years.

ARL120384 11-22-2024 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 3854733)
You shouldn't come here if you're a West Coast guy. I know I've chatted with folks on here looking for an LA base and I've always said that this is not a West Coast airline.

Hell if you're a junior FO, get the hell out of here and go to the big 3. There's no reason to be here if you're junior. Many of us are facing a 2nd, 3rd and 4th downgrade/displacement. It's going to take a decade to hold Captain here. There are 15+ year CAs here barely holding a line. It's sad really, because when I came here it was actually ramping up, upgrades were dropping to a "reasonable" level, we were hiring and showing growth, and then it's all gone to crap the past 3 years.

Staring down a 4th downgrade here in 5 years....

MergingTargets 11-22-2024 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 3854733)
Hell if you're a junior FO, get the hell out of here and go to the big 3.

Or even a junior captain. If you don't live in base at this company, b-a-i-l.

I don't think it's bad yet, I actually believe them when they say "we're not Spirit," but... don't commute for this company.


Originally Posted by ARL120384 (Post 3854737)
Staring down a 4th downgrade here in 5 years....

I didn't even realize that was a thing... sorry man. Do you get a friggen upgrade dinner at Outback every time?


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