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MainlineFlyer 11-11-2024 04:57 PM

PAP shooting
 
When is enough going to be enough? I'm sick of hearing Blue Watch say it's fine when it just isn't. That flight attendant was inches from getting their head blown off. It could just as easily been a one of us. I'm pretty sure these shootings have been coming from the same area, and we need to at the very least stop flying approaches/departures over that area. If the winds don't support that then we don't go. Either that or we get Kevlar floor liners, flack jackets and helmets.

ALPA grow some juevos here.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/spirit-airlines-flight-hit-by-gunfire-while-approaching-haitis-port-au-prince/ar-AA1tUmRC

Aviator147 11-12-2024 08:36 AM

is it true a JBU aircraft was found with a bullet hole as well?

EAFF95 11-12-2024 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Aviator147 (Post 3851668)
is it true a JBU aircraft was found with a bullet hole as well?

https://avherald.com/h?article=5203c967&opt=0

Avherald reported it.

Supermid 11-12-2024 01:23 PM

We suspended service I thought I saw.

MainlineFlyer 11-12-2024 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3851745)
We suspended service I thought I saw.

Yeah, they do this every time. They suspend service, then wait a month and start it back up again after things have "cooled down".

Supermid 11-12-2024 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3851808)
Yeah, they do this every time. They suspend service, then wait a month and start it back up again after things have "cooled down".

We can't compete anywhere else, so we need to milk the hell out of all these wonderful places. Jetforward baby!

rickair7777 11-13-2024 06:03 AM

Ah the joys of west coast flying... the worst place we go to is Oakland.

SonicFlyer 11-13-2024 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3851983)
Ah the joys of west coast flying... the worst place we go to is Oakland.

Thats about the same

11atsomto 11-14-2024 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3851502)
When is enough going to be enough? I'm sick of hearing Blue Watch say it's fine when it just isn't. That flight attendant was inches from getting their head blown off. It could just as easily been a one of us. I'm pretty sure these shootings have been coming from the same area, and we need to at the very least stop flying approaches/departures over that area. If the winds don't support that then we don't go. Either that or we get Kevlar floor liners, flack jackets and helmets.

ALPA grow some juevos here.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/spirit-airlines-flight-hit-by-gunfire-while-approaching-haitis-port-au-prince/ar-AA1tUmRC

100% This....
I was one of the guys campaigning for ban on Georgetown, Guyana overnights......obviously they couldn't make it a day trip (block) or even work down DH back (contract duty) but something like DH offline to like Aruba, Port of Espain, or Cartagena....I don't know something other than putting crews safety at risk. As pointed out this doesn't seem like the first time.......how as the PIC can we really say the flight can be conducted safely.

symbian simian 11-14-2024 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3851983)
Ah the joys of west coast flying... the worst place we go to is Oakland.


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3852020)
Thats about the same

I don't agree with you generally, but.....

Halon1211 11-14-2024 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3852431)
100% This....
I was one of the guys campaigning for ban on Georgetown, Guyana overnights......obviously they couldn't make it a day trip (block) or even work down DH back (contract duty) but something like DH offline to like Aruba, Port of Espain, or Cartagena....I don't know something other than putting crews safety at risk. As pointed out this doesn't seem like the first time.......how as the PIC can we really say the flight can be conducted safely.


you guys would never make it doing ACMI cargo.

Supermid 11-14-2024 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3852499)
you guys would never make it doing ACMI cargo.

Cool nobody here cares about ACMI cargo.

DogPit 11-14-2024 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3852499)
you guys would never make it doing ACMI cargo.

Good thing we aren’t talking about ACMI cargo.

11atsomto 11-14-2024 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3852499)
you guys would never make it doing ACMI cargo.

One of the questions at the Atlas interview is "Are you willing to work in a war zone?"......... JetBlue asks no such question.

ClncClarence 11-15-2024 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3852499)
you guys would never make it doing ACMI cargo.

I was scared of the dark and couldn't even hack it at boujee cargo. Then again Memphis scared me during the day, too. Had worse experiences there than I ever did doing a PAP turn.

John Carr 11-16-2024 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3851983)
Ah the joys of west coast flying... the worst place we go to is Oakland.

In the 90's, planes were getting shot at going into LAX.

cuz the boyyzzzzz innnn the 'hooooood r alwayyyyyyz harrrrrrrd.........

Cleared4appch 11-16-2024 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3852837)
In the 90's, planes were getting shot at going into LAX.

cuz the boyyzzzzz innnn the 'hooooood r alwayyyyyyz harrrrrrrd.........

You ain’t a real gangsta, until you’ve shot at a plane!

John Carr 11-16-2024 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Cleared4appch;[url=tel:3852919
3852919[/url]]You ain’t a real gangsta, until you’ve shot at a plane!

Better be gangsta' gangsta' at the top of your list.

ReachHeavy 11-16-2024 03:26 PM

I'll take some hazardous pay and a month of tax exempt please!


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