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MergingTargets 01-13-2025 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3870307)
2025 is the shoot par or bust year folks, they've been saying it in every town hall podcast whatever they are called.

Not anymore. Latest communique says we do not expect to be profitable in 2025.

Supermid 01-13-2025 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by MergingTargets (Post 3870523)
Not anymore. Latest communique says we do not expect to be profitable in 2025.

I said par as in what Geraghty said “our revenue needs to cover our operating expenses.” She didn’t say profitable.

ridinhigh 01-13-2025 06:35 PM

Got some 2026 LEAPS just in case
I think it will be in the cards.
Alaska

GoodJet 01-13-2025 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by ridinhigh (Post 3870585)
Got some 2026 LEAPS just in case
I think it will be in the cards.
Alaska

Damn that's brave.

MergingTargets 01-13-2025 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3870553)
I said par as in what Geraghty said “our revenue needs to cover our operating expenses.” She didn’t say profitable.

Last I’d heard we were expecting breakeven in 2025, no?

RiddleEagle18 01-14-2025 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by MergingTargets (Post 3870597)
Last I’d heard we were expecting breakeven in 2025, no?


In 2025, we expect to have a positive operating profit but still be unprofitable overall.”

From her weekly update email.

MergingTargets 01-14-2025 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3870653)
In 2025, we expect to have a positive operating profit but still be unprofitable overall.”

From her weekly update email.

No, I know, I just quoted that 2 posts ago. I mean all the past year before the email from 2 days ago that I already mentioned. Whatever, nevermind, I’ve stopped caring.

MainlineFlyer 01-14-2025 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3870653)
In 2025, we expect to have a positive operating profit but still be unprofitable overall.”

From her weekly update email.


In other words if it weren't for all the debt strangling us at 7%+ interest we would be profitable.

Meanwhile Delta just reported 12% operating margins.

PeakEGT 01-14-2025 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3870667)
In other words if it weren't for all the debt strangling us at 7%+ interest we would be profitable.

Meanwhile Delta just reported 12% operating margins.

I think a major downfall of anyone outside of the big 3 is the fact that Airlines have turned into financial institutions. Loyalty benefits, cobranded credit cards, frequent flyer programs, etc. These programs now bring a lot of revenue and offer upfront payment to the airlines for miles sold to institutions. Far outweighing ancillary fees which
Spirit was known for.

Now if you were to sign up for a credit card would you take a hard inquiry to sign up for TrueBlue, where one will always have to go through JFK or BOS or for a legacy card with lounge access and a global network.

AYLflyer 01-14-2025 07:40 AM

I'm too lazy to look it up but does anyone have any idea how much the legacies make off their credit cards vs everything else? If for example airline credit cards were banned tomorrow, would the big 3 still show profit?


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