EWR engine fail RTF
 

Kudos to the crew for handling ghe emergency and getting everyone on the ground and evacuated safely! My question is given the crew reported smoke in the cockpit then cabin would it have been prudent to cut the bleeds before the smoke started to prevent it from occurring in the first place? In other words engine damage/fire should have a memory item BLEEDS/PACKS OFF. My thinking on this was if we are having to contend with APUs dumping smelly cancer socks into the air system and we turn the packs/bleeds off right away why no do the same to lfor eng damage/fire? Even for perhaps engine surging.

Good question. I’d pose it the CKA/Fleet CA. I know this, at THIS airline you better not do **** that’s NOT written in black and white in our manuals!

Did the engine fail as in flameout or did it eat itself?

Now I haven’t read the light/switch guide in a while but I stayed at one of our luxurious holiday inn express last night….the fire light switch isolates the problem doesn’t it? Which one of those steps it does so is closing the bleed.

When you hit the FIRE button on ENG it

Silences Aural warning

Arms Squibs (Squib light turns ON)

Deactivates generator

FADEC power removed

Closes:

FUEL LP valve

Hyd Fire SOV

Engine Bleed

Pack Flow Control

Im guessing the smoke started while the crew was flying the plane first before they started MEMORY items and ECAM actions. Then in theory when they hit the FIRE buttons the smoke dissipated somewhat as the bleed on the damaged engine was cut.

Not sure whats in your checklists but are you saying that had Sully worked for B6 instead of US AIR he would have been doing the waltz on the carpet after the water landing and such for turning on the APU(?) despite it not being in the checklists?

yeah Mike O’Malley was pretty ****ed about that one….me must have roamed the halls of OSC at one time

saves a cycle on the APU too…so now you can bring an extra pair of socks and underwear because it’s cost neutral….jetfoward

According to ATC audio, it sounds like the crew had a compressor stall. There's no memory item for this or an engine FIRE/FAILURE. Do us all a favor and save your speculation until the investigation is complete.

It’s an engine oil seal leak more than likely. Usually always is.

I thought it was APU oil overservicing?

Either way in theory would it make sense to turn off the affected engine/apu bleed source to prevent smoke from coming in?